Giuseppe Marotta (73 Viewers)
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Adding salt to the wound 
. This guy talks way too much, should learn to shut his trap sometimes. And he always comes up with this cheap ass answers.
Let's be honest, he's doing his job as if Juve is that crap shack he was at, Samp. Same business approach: buying players for dime a dozen, hoping some of them turn to be something special. Feeling comfortable at those middle ground, not too expensive not too cheap deals. Lacking boldness, that extra edge, decisiveness to strike big deals.
. This guy talks way too much, should learn to shut his trap sometimes. And he always comes up with this cheap ass answers.Let's be honest, he's doing his job as if Juve is that crap shack he was at, Samp. Same business approach: buying players for dime a dozen, hoping some of them turn to be something special. Feeling comfortable at those middle ground, not too expensive not too cheap deals. Lacking boldness, that extra edge, decisiveness to strike big deals.
Adding salt to the wound . This guy talks way too much, should learn to shut his trap sometimes. And he always comes up with this cheap ass answers.
Let's be honest, he's doing his job as if Juve is that crap shack he was at, Samp. Same business approach: buying players for dime a dozen, hoping some of them turn to be something special. Feeling comfortable at those middle ground, not too expensive not too cheap deals. Lacking boldness, that extra edge, decisiveness to strike big deals.
. This guy talks way too much, should learn to shut his trap sometimes. And he always comes up with this cheap ass answers.Let's be honest, he's doing his job as if Juve is that crap shack he was at, Samp. Same business approach: buying players for dime a dozen, hoping some of them turn to be something special. Feeling comfortable at those middle ground, not too expensive not too cheap deals. Lacking boldness, that extra edge, decisiveness to strike big deals.
If you're aware of this, then why do you expect us to sign, for example, RVP?
Exactly. So far, he has only taken minor risks. Again and again and again. Obviously not a coincidence.
He is more than likely asked to not take bigger risks. I'd say the people with their hands on the wallet have not yet forgotten Calciopoli & the few years that followed it.
I think a lot of people are blisfully unaware of just what we went through, financially speaking, and how "our future" looked back then.
And it also doesn't help that the last big, expensive transfers we did all more or less failed. Some of which we are still paying for now. Yet another reason why the people in charge will think twice.
Or, in the words of the majority of posters on 'tuz:
"Fuck Serie A, I only care about Juve."
"Marotta fails again in bringing a big name to Italy."
Though personally I think RVP was never a serious option for us. Probably was some kind of contact very early on, but as soon as wages (& transfer sum as well) came into the picture we immediately backed off.
Exactly. So far, he has only taken minor risks. Again and again and again. Obviously not a coincidence.
He is more than likely asked to not take bigger risks. I'd say the people with their hands on the wallet have not yet forgotten Calciopoli & the few years that followed it.
I think a lot of people are blisfully unaware of just what we went through, financially speaking, and how "our future" looked back then.
And it also doesn't help that the last big, expensive transfers we did all more or less failed. Some of which we are still paying for now. Yet another reason why the people in charge will think twice.
Or, in the words of the majority of posters on 'tuz:
"Fuck Serie A, I only care about Juve."
"Marotta fails again in bringing a big name to Italy."
Though personally I think RVP was never a serious option for us. Probably was some kind of contact very early on, but as soon as wages (& transfer sum as well) came into the picture we immediately backed off.
Nobody is asking for a big name..Just a goddamn striker who knows how to put the ball in the back of the net..And there were players who were in 'Marotta's price range' in terms of both wages and transfer fee and he failed to enforce the issue..He left it too little and too late ,its honestly baffling how people can defend Marotta in this case.
Best example i can give is Giroud who went for a paltry €12m but we dint even make an enquiry thinking that "Oh we can get the big names" only later to back off once a bidding war approaches or back off due to the high wages and transfer fee.
Criticism where its due.
Best example i can give is Giroud who went for a paltry €12m but we dint even make an enquiry thinking that "Oh we can get the big names" only later to back off once a bidding war approaches or back off due to the high wages and transfer fee.
Criticism where its due.
Achievable how?
Llorente - Bilbao's president demanded clubs to pay his €36M release clause. There's no way we should've paid that for him. Even so, he was on his last year of his contract.
Cavani - De Laurentis wanted the world for him. He was not achievable in any way, but whatever.
Jovetic - Not the player we needed, but if we are to believe rumors, we bid €30M for him and they rejected it.
What exactly did you want us to do? Just pay them?
Llorente - Bilbao's president demanded clubs to pay his €36M release clause. There's no way we should've paid that for him. Even so, he was on his last year of his contract.
Cavani - De Laurentis wanted the world for him. He was not achievable in any way, but whatever.
Jovetic - Not the player we needed, but if we are to believe rumors, we bid €30M for him and they rejected it.
What exactly did you want us to do? Just pay them?
I'd prefer Matri & Vucinic over him. Maybe even Gio.
So no, I don't think he'd be an upgrade.
And I'm sure there are plenty of strikers we could have gotten on our terms. Players like Giroud perhaps.
But I thought the plan was to vastly improve that position, not just add another "maybe". If you can't vastly improve, you just shouldn't bother with it imo.
So yes, I will criticize him if Borriello or Bendtner arrives.
So no, I don't think he'd be an upgrade.
And I'm sure there are plenty of strikers we could have gotten on our terms. Players like Giroud perhaps.
But I thought the plan was to vastly improve that position, not just add another "maybe". If you can't vastly improve, you just shouldn't bother with it imo.
So yes, I will criticize him if Borriello or Bendtner arrives.
You and all his apologists could probably organize a session with him or something 
Marotta 
why am not surprised he screwed up yet again !
The guy is 57 year old, and he's biggest achievement is working for the likes of Commo, atalanta and sampdoria. He's the guy who picked the safe choice (Delneri) and look how that turned out to be. Anyways I have faith in Andrea Agnelli (he's still young) after few mistakes he'll make the right choices in the future.
why am not surprised he screwed up yet again !The guy is 57 year old, and he's biggest achievement is working for the likes of Commo, atalanta and sampdoria. He's the guy who picked the safe choice (Delneri) and look how that turned out to be. Anyways I have faith in Andrea Agnelli (he's still young) after few mistakes he'll make the right choices in the future.
This discussion is actually ridiculous, I am also on the belief that Marotta's style is not suitable to bringing in such players regardless from which league they are coming from. However, if we are to believe rumours then it is not entirely Marotta's fault when the club presidents are asking for ridiculous amounts and even refusing bids with ridiculous amounts.
What bothers about the whole thing is that if we are working with a limited budget then we should prioritize and Marotta has not done that, he went and bought Asamoah and Isla who might be great players but they are players who reinforce already strong departments.
And only one remark about Marotta himself, his style and transfer policies suck, sometimes one has to go through negotiations and bidding. It's silly to pull out each and every time.
What bothers about the whole thing is that if we are working with a limited budget then we should prioritize and Marotta has not done that, he went and bought Asamoah and Isla who might be great players but they are players who reinforce already strong departments.
And only one remark about Marotta himself, his style and transfer policies suck, sometimes one has to go through negotiations and bidding. It's silly to pull out each and every time.
Knee jerking all around, I see.
It's hardly Marrotta's fault on the Berba deal, I'd say. He offered a good deal that was enough to entice Berbatov until Fulham offered him a way of keeping his family in Britain. Either way, the fact that Berbatov changed his mind shows that he's not driven 100 % toward sporting ambition but rather compromising between a challenge, way of life and his family. You can't fault him but it also raises questions of how much effort he would have put in at Juve.
None of us know our budgets for sure but either way I'm happy that we aren't throwing 30M at anything that moves. Financial maturity will make sure we don't end up like Milan.
The only thing I can fault Marrotta for are his early purchases (like Martinez) and perhaps not being aggressive enough when trying to get rid of deadwood. Even then, a player like Melo hasn't exactly proven to be cooperative on that front.
It's hardly Marrotta's fault on the Berba deal, I'd say. He offered a good deal that was enough to entice Berbatov until Fulham offered him a way of keeping his family in Britain. Either way, the fact that Berbatov changed his mind shows that he's not driven 100 % toward sporting ambition but rather compromising between a challenge, way of life and his family. You can't fault him but it also raises questions of how much effort he would have put in at Juve.
None of us know our budgets for sure but either way I'm happy that we aren't throwing 30M at anything that moves. Financial maturity will make sure we don't end up like Milan.
The only thing I can fault Marrotta for are his early purchases (like Martinez) and perhaps not being aggressive enough when trying to get rid of deadwood. Even then, a player like Melo hasn't exactly proven to be cooperative on that front.