Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
47,928
STFU apologist. I didn't call Klin a liar. I was saying that Marotta has been the one feeding us lies, with all that talk of a top player, quality striker, and all that BS.

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:rolleyes: Whatever. Go play some cricket or do some IT work, or any of that other shit that you do :stuckup:
the coal on my sheesha is finished, come and change it.
 

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v1rtu4l

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2008
6,349
Marotta :lol: why am not surprised he screwed up yet again !

The guy is 57 year old, and he's biggest achievement is working for the likes of Commo, atalanta and sampdoria. He's the guy who picked the safe choice (Delneri) and look how that turned out to be. Anyways I have faith in Andrea Agnelli (he's still young) after few mistakes he'll make the right choices in the future.
wait wait wait, is becoming champions with juventus not a bigger achievement than the above mentioned clubs ?

even if marotta would have only worked for sampdoria you are laughing at him for under-achievement ? the italian league is arguable one of the best 5 leagues in the world and he participated in that professionaly. so tell me Mr Only-Juve ... what company do you work for ? is your company one of the best in the world ? you do not even work for a fortune 500 company and laugh at someone who is way more successful than you and earns more in one month than you in a whole year !

it's like the homeless people on the street that always know better how to handle everything from politics to economics, but are not even able to handle their own life. disgusting
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Why does the one position we need to have filled since Trezeguet's departure have to be now described as a panic buy?! We started out this mercato with clear objectives of an LwB a CF and a CM if time and money permitted us. Asamoah for all his brilliance came in as a CM back up, and is instead being used to fill the LwB spot which we are now no longer bothered with seeing his preseason performances. Make no mistake about this, but Marrotta has bought Asamoah as a cm and not LWB. Which in my book means one of those two positions are going to continue to suffer.

For all the people claiming that we shouldn't spend money on a panic buy, I agree. But this shouldn't have come down to the last day either. There is nothing in our strategy that suggests the most urgent position should've been left for the last day. Isla is a PHENOM. But what are you going to do with Licht and Caceres who you already have and DeCeglie who gets injured everytikme the ball touches him? The imbalance is boggling to me. We bought Asamoah, Isla, Giovinco and paid good money for those three at the very start of the mercato before addressing an issue that will have more bearing than those three would, simply because two of those three were meant to be backups while the CF was a starting position that needed to be filled. Had we offered 30m for Higuain to Madrid when his position was uncertain at first, or JoJo when he was in two minds, or spent the entire 30m on a guy like Suarez when his racism row was creating an issue over the summer we wouldve netted somebody worthy of being a marquee figure. Hell, even a Dzeko was doable if we had put 25m on the plate because his situation at the club is not stable. It would give city time to accommodate another purchase. It really is about pursuing our targets with a little more focus, rather than spreading ourselves thin in the mercato, especially when all of us know and admit, certain conditions can work against us. And if Marrotta thinks its tough to buy for Juve then don't even draw comparisons or tell the fans what kind of players we want. Its unfair to the fans to hear this every summer. He has done this for three consecutive summers now. And it is completely and utterly unforgivable, not to mention, unacceptable. I refuse to agree with those who think it was impossible to buy a top striker or a relatively decent one. We wouldve had our striker. Instead we chose to talk to the press about plasma tv's and players like RVP, Suarez and Llorente etc.

Just shut up and do your work. Even after our initial purchases, we had two whole months to focus on getting one player, with a particular characteristic, but we were all over the place looking for the best available deal. Juventus is not Sampdoria. There is a certain level of ambition and that ambition warrants a certain kind of approach. You need to focus on a pool of two or three players and go after them and be willing to negotiate conditions to the best of your ability. Not throw in a silly offer with a take it or leave it claim and proclaim to the world that it's your terms or nothing. The fact is, it's not difficult to buy for Juventus. It's difficult to buy on one person's individual outlook. Look at the class of players we are going to be up against in Europe. When you're building a team by your own admission, to compete with that, do you really think you are going to be buying on your own terms? It is this negligent approach that is burning us every season and we need to put a stop to it. The money was there, and has been so very clearly. Our strategy had to be clear from the outset. This is where we failed. We would perhaps overpay in transfer fees for guys like Higuain, Cavani, JoJo, Suarez, but all of them were well within our wage structure which is the sore sticking point for us, and there is absolutely no excuse to not have pursued these players. We could all sit here and argue that their clubs weren't interested in selling. Honestly, how interested were we in buying in the first place? A negotiation doesn't end with one offer. It begins with it. Even the clubs bigger than us dont get things on their terms. They negotiate and most importantly, stay focussed on certain targets so they get what they want or at least close to it. But Marrotta's unwillingness to go further or fight for a player is what has left us in the precarious position of having to deal with Nicklas Bendtner. Its absolutely shameful. There is really no excuse when you can't get it right three seasons. THREE FULL SEASONS. People defending Marrotta on the back of an undefeated season in Italy, are holding an argument that is bound to collapse in the season ahead, where this team will be exposed for it's obvious lack of quality in the two areas that are begging for it.

There is absolutely no excuse this time around, none. I pray and hope for the life of me, that he can pull something off in these hours, for his sake and ours. Because as things stand, he has failed to deliver what we had required first and foremost.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
Administrator
May 27, 2007
89,249
I'm frustrated just as any of you are, but if this goes into name calling and cursing if we land a shit player, you're getting cards. Sorry, I wish I could give a red to Marotta at this point, but sadly I can't.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
If marotta doesn't get us a top class striker then he isn't good enough to be with us. No excuses.
That's the bottom line. A good manager should be able to close the tough deals and Marotta has proven over the last three Mercatos that he's incapable of this.

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the coal on my sheesha is finished, come and change it.
:lol: - you sound like a real jerk.
 

Fint

Senior Member
Aug 13, 2010
19,354
Anyone know of any sites or previous posts on this forum that show all of our expenditure this Summer, if so can you please provide a link, thanks in advance.
 

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