Giuseppe Marotta (77 Viewers)

[Gian]

Yeah, the Krasic signing was an easy one. I think the Aquilani transfer is impressive, managing to get a young player with that reputation on a year loan with a good price to sign him for at the end of the season was a great move by Marotta.

Selling Poulsen was a good one too. Selling Diego and getting Quag, turned out to be even better, the latter brought structure in our play while Diego was probably one of the reasons of last years failure.

The fullback problem which he ignored are

 

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[sateeh]

Selling Poulsen was a good one too. Selling Diego and getting Quag, turned out to be even better, the latter brought structure in our play while Diego was probably one of the reasons of last years failure.

The fullback problem which he ignored are

Didnt really ignore it. Motta looked like a great signing but we didn't he would be shown up the way he is. I don't remember him this bad at all in Udine or Roma.

Maybe he should've brought in someone better but i think the alternatives were limited due to our price range (amounts to almost nil).

And Traore was supposed to be a cover or maybe challenging DC for the LB position. DC hurt himself and armand wasn't up to scratch,so we end up with good old side burn to fill the position.

 

[Gian]

Didnt really ignore it. Motta looked like a great signing but we didn't he would be shown up the way he is. I don't remember him this bad at all in Udine or Roma.

Maybe he should've brought in someone better but i think the alternatives were limited due to our price range (amounts to almost nil).

And Traore was supposed to be a cover or maybe challenging DC for the LB position. DC hurt himself and armand wasn't up to scratch,so we end up with good old side burn to fill the position.

Motta was poor at Roma, why you think Ranieri benched him for playing an oldie like Casetti. He started promising but went to be a zero in the end.

Traore had panic buy written all over him, just like Rinaudo

Didn't give enough of his time to it/ignored it, dont know what is the case but he fucked up there

 

[Mohad]

Soon enough, Juventus will be VINDICATED.


The club is more important than one person, if you ask me.

It's not like Moggi will live for ever.

 

[torricelli_juve]

For 25mil or not.. all I'm saying is Krasic played a huge part on that deal, it wasn't all due to Marotta's skill to sign the guy..
stop making it sound like Krasic was on the verge of joining Madrid and marotta snatched him up on a last minute bid.

But Secco could have accepted to pay over 18m right away just to save the effort to negotiate. We saved 2.5m thanks to that which is not a small amount.

If people are blaming Marotta for overpaying Toni's wage, then that amount saved from Krasic's deal should also be appreciated.

 

[B3N]

But Secco could have accepted to pay over 18m right away just to save the effort to negotiate. We saved 2.5m thanks to that which is not a small amount.

If people are blaming Marotta for overpaying Toni's wage, then that amount saved from Krasic's deal should also be appreciated.

The thing is mate, in that particular deal Krasic should get as much credit, if not all, as Marotta's work..

He could have easily welcomed city's offer in summer, then I'm sure Marotta couldn't have signed the guy even for that intial 18mil reported.

 

[Lo-Pan]

Writing less profusely, for a change...

I am grateful for marotta and del neri, for:
Krasic
Aquilani
Bonucci
Quags
Melo V2
De Ceglie V2
Storari
Sorensen

I hope by the end of the season I will be grateful to them for Martinez...
Pepe has bene more useful than a liability.
So...only Motta is the major disappointment, which has been lessened, in terms of bothering me due to sorensen, and also, how good grygera seemed BEFORE his injury. Traore hasn't had enough time to get match sharp and show what he can do once properly trained by Del Neri and other coaches...Same for Martinez really, although his brief cameos have been encouraging.

Impossible for del neri and marotta to change the whole team in one transfer window, starting off with so much depression in the ranks and many very average players all hard to sell or terminate contractually.

6 signings proven successful. two players vastly improved. Not bad at all...for such a short period of time, and without millions to spend, or champions league football to offer.

 

[Hust]

Writing less profusely, for a change...

I am grateful for marotta and del neri, for:
Krasic
Aquilani
Bonucci
Quags
Melo V2
De Ceglie V2
Storari
Sorensen

I hope by the end of the season I will be grateful to them for Martinez...
Pepe has bene more useful than a liability.
So...only Motta is the major disappointment, which has been lessened, in terms of bothering me due to sorensen, and also, how good grygera seemed BEFORE his injury. Traore hasn't had enough time to get match sharp and show what he can do once properly trained by Del Neri and other coaches...Same for Martinez really, although his brief cameos have been encouraging.

Impossible for del neri and marotta to change the whole team in one transfer window, starting off with so much depression in the ranks and many very average players all hard to sell or terminate contractually.

6 signings proven successful. two players vastly improved. Not bad at all...for such a short period of time, and without millions to spend, or champions league football to offer.

Yes sir.

 

[torricelli_juve]

The thing is mate, in that particular deal Krasic should get as much credit, if not all, as Marotta's work..

He could have easily welcomed city's offer in summer, then I'm sure Marotta couldn't have signed the guy even for that intial 18mil reported.

I think Marotta made a good decision based on Krasic's desire to come to Juve. There were rumours saying he was at Manchester looking for new home, and there were times that even Krasic himself wasn't so sure if the deal can go thro'.

It's not as easy as it seems today. And it could have go the other way, either we missed out this good player, or we paid more.

I just want some of the fans here to be more fair when they evaluate Marotta's job. When they are blaming him on those small sum deals like Motta/Toni/Barzagli (not coming yet). He saved us a bigger amount from Krasic/Aquilani/Quagliarella's deals. Not to mention the reduction in the wage bill and lowering the average age of the team.

The only thing that I want to criticize is the lack of decent solution for our full backs. It could be deadly, unfortunately, but we will see what he will do in this coming weeks.

 

[B3N]

I think Marotta made a good decision based on Krasic's desire to come to Juve. There were rumours saying he was at Manchester looking for new home, and there were times that even Krasic himself wasn't so sure if the deal can go thro'.

It's not as easy as it seems today. And it could have go the other way, either we missed out this good player, or we paid more.

I just want some of the fans here to be more fair when they evaluate Marotta's job. When they are blaming him on those small sum deals like Motta/Toni/Barzagli (not coming yet). He saved us a bigger amount from Krasic/Aquilani/Quagliarella's deals. Not to mention the reduction in the wage bill and lowering the average age of the team.

The only thing that I want to criticize is the lack of decent solution for our full backs. It could be deadly, unfortunately, but we will see what he will do in this coming weeks.

How is it not as easy as it seems?

Karsic openly and publicly rejected all the offers and said numerous times that I'm only going to Juve. He waited the whole summer eventhough he knew he was our 2nd target after Dzeko.
He was on his last year contract and he wasn't going to sign any new one with CSKA either.. so they either could have accepted Juve's offer or they were going to lose Krasic as free by the end of year. He gave Marotta all kind of advantages to have the upper hand over CSKA's owner.. That's as easy as it can get if you ask me mate...


Yeah I give Marotta credit for the gamble he took on Quag which turned out fanatastic, but other than than I can't honestly see how's his other moves such bigdeals for some members here.. yeah we got some decent players such as Bonucci and Aquilani, but we also paid/are paying a good amount of money for them you know!

 

[torricelli_juve]

How is it not as easy as it seems?

Karsic openly and publicly rejected all the offers and said numerous times that I'm only going to Juve. He waited the whole summer eventhough he knew he was our 2nd target after Dzeko.
He was on his last year contract and he wasn't going to sign any new one with CSKA either.. so they either could have accepted Juve's offer or they were going to lose Krasic as free by the end of year. He gave Marotta all kind of advantages to have the upper hand over CSKA's owner.. That's as easy as it can get if you ask me mate...


Yeah I give Marotta credit for the gamble he took on Quag which turned out fanatastic, but other than than I can't honestly see how's his other moves such bigdeals for some members here.. yeah we got some decent players such as Bonucci and Aquilani, but we also paid/are paying a good amount of money for them you know!

It is the waiting that creates value, you can say we're the only choice for him now. But back then there could be other competitors and while we're keeping our chance on Krasic, we kept our options open, as you said we're still negotiating with Dzeko. In the end we can still get him at a price that we offered. This is pretty much the best thing he can do on this given the tight constraint.

A bad decision maker could have signed him right away, but Marotta was making careful choices and taking strong stance in terms of cost and he knows our advantage in this deal.

He could also act quick as we can see in the deal for Aquilani when the terms were favourable to us, in which everything was settled in 2-3days.

 

[B3N]

It is the waiting that creates value, you can say we're the only choice for him now. But back then there could be other competitors and while we're keeping our chance on Krasic, we kept our options open, as you said we're still negotiating with Dzeko. In the end we can still get him at a price that we offered. This is pretty much the best thing he can do on this given the tight constraint.

A bad decision maker could have signed him right away, but Marotta was making careful choices and taking strong stance in terms of cost and he knows our advantage in this deal.

He could also act quick as we can see in the deal for Aquilani when the terms were favourable to us, in which everything was settled in 2-3days.

There were others teams wanting Krasic, and like I said Krasic was the one making himself only available for Juve and gave Marotta the impression that he could take his time on the deal.. you still wanna say there was some special skills done by Marotta, let's agree to disagree..

and btw my intial post was directed at someone who made it sound like Krasic was discovered by Marotta and I replyed to that.. I wasn't specifically talking about Krasic's price.. I said the deal, in any case, was going to happen no matter who incharge.

 

[torricelli_juve]

There were others teams wanting Krasic, and like I said Krasic was the one making himself only available for Juve and gave Marotta the impression that he could take his time on the deal.. you still wanna say there was some special skills done by Marotta, let's agree to disagree..

and btw my intial post was directed at someone who made it sound like Krasic was discovered by Marotta and I replyed to that.. I wasn't specifically talking about Krasic's price.. I said the deal, in any case, was going to happen no matter who incharge.

It wasn't that certain, as we said, we could have signed Dzeko instead and we have to give up on Krasic in that case.

Signing Krasic, in that sense, and I have to agree with you, is not that difficult, but I am giving credit Marotta for keeping our options open in the negotiation process.


Anyway, I wanted to point out that there are positive side shown by Marotta in his job but it doesn't mean that he has done a perfect job. There are much more to prove but at the same time I think we need to be patient because it's not easy to offload players like Amauri, Grosso, Tiago etc. Thanks to Secco.

 

[B3N]

It wasn't that certain, as we said, we could have signed Dzeko instead and we have to give up on Krasic in that case. Signing Krasic, in that sense, and I have to agree with you, is not that difficult, but I am giving credit Marotta for keeping our options open in the negotiation process.


Anyway, I wanted to point out that there are positive side shown by Marotta in his job but it doesn't mean that he has done a perfect job. There are much more to prove but at the same time I think we need to be patient because it's not easy to offload players like Amauri, Grosso, Tiago etc. Thanks to Secco.

That would have been the best outcome, as much as I like Krasic.. If we had signed Dzeko in summer, then there was that possiblity that we could have singed Krasic for free or simply go for another decent winger.. but anyways.. yes Marotta has done a few good moves, Quag being my favorite, but the guy loses it from time to time by targeting Floro Flores and the likes... And I still don't rate him that highly when it comes to dealing and negotiating with other clubs (especially outside of Italy)..
Whorness (Wolfsborg's owner/GD or whatever) certainly did take him for a ride when we were after Dzeko..

 

[Kasaki]

In hindsight, since man city got balotelli they wouldn't have pursued krasic this winter transfer window imo. We could have had dzeko this season, and quaq. Then come summer got krasic for free? or cheap? But that's all in hindsight a tool that marotta didn't have. Our inability to secure dzeko's signature may be a blessing in disguise , come summer I want our non-eu used for neymar

 

[Kasaki]

Also wingers are easy to find in today's football. However world class strikers are one in a dozen.

 

[only-juve]

Aquilani is still a 50-50 deal to me, the man blows hot and cold all the time and that reminds me of his time with Roma. One day he's brilliant and other he's non-existent.

Add to that his injury record in the past and the 15 millions would look pretty risky sum.

 

[B3N]

Liverpool (Roy hodgson,their board or whoever made the decision) Valued Aquilani exactly the same way we valued Diego, no? 'pool bought Aqua for 20 something mil and now we have the option of redemption for 16mil?

Eventhough he's not as consistent as we'd like him to be, given that he has been injury-free thus far, is very well effective in our mid on his day, it could prove to be a well taken risk at the end,IMO..

 

[only-juve]

Liverpool (Roy hodgson,their board or whoever made the decision) Valued Aquilani exactly the same way we valued Diego, no? 'pool bought Aqua for 20 something mil and now we have the option of redemption for 16mil?

Eventhough he's not as consistent as we'd like him to be, given that he has been injury-free thus far, is very well effective in our mid on his day, it could prove to be a well taken risk at the end,IMO..

Only if we get him for serious cut price (like Wolfsburg's Diego deal with us). 11-12 millions is pretty much his fair price IMO taking his Injury risks + the fact that he desperately wants a return to Italy and his inconsistency. All these factors should lower his price alot.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Aquilani is still a 50-50 deal to me, the man blows hot and cold all the time and that reminds me of his time with Roma. One day he's brilliant and other he's non-existent.

Add to that his injury record in the past and the 15 millions would look pretty risky sum.

Agreed on Aquilani. So far, he doesn't seem like a 15 million € player. Despite his obvious qualities.


Personally, what bothers me about Marotta is the lack of consistency. As if he doesn't have a real (long term) strategy.

The way in which he handled the Krasic deal for example is praiseworthy: acting with a lot of patience, not making any rushed deals & looking at all options / possibilities in order to save some money in the end.
But at the same time, other deals (both in & out going) were clearly rushed. Some turned out okay, some did not.

Trying hard to decrease the average age / payroll was also a smart move which deserves praise.
But at the same time he signed Toni & is apparently looking at Barzagli & Forlan.

Things just don't add up so far, imo.