Giuseppe Marotta (26 Viewers)
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I think Marotta and the rest of the management could have done more to convince Tevez to stay. One more year wouldn't have killed him.
If they had done that maybe we could have gone without AM saga and play 352 with strong fullbacks like Sandro and Cuadrado, and offensive CM's like Pogba and Pereyra.
Right now, as we stand, we are in no mans land. We don't even know which will be our formation this season and the first CL game is in 16-17 days.
If they had done that maybe we could have gone without AM saga and play 352 with strong fullbacks like Sandro and Cuadrado, and offensive CM's like Pogba and Pereyra.
Right now, as we stand, we are in no mans land. We don't even know which will be our formation this season and the first CL game is in 16-17 days.
That's my problem with this mercato. We were in a position to control the transition because we recognised the need for change from a position of power, yet we allowed our important pillars, most notably Vidal to go after Tevez and Pirlo were already done. Far, far smoother transition had it happened with the midfield still in tact.
Yep, it definitely became a transition season when Vidal was sold.
Injuries are not helping either. Preseason was kind of messy, and injuries are clearly related to that poor planning.
There's been a clear lack of planning and direction.
It can still work out and we may retain scudetto and remain between the 8 top in Europe - but it's definitely starting in a very improvised way.
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It's definitely a transitional season. I don't fully expect to win scudetto like the previous years.
I expect us to contend for it and develop chemistry and young guys:
- Morata established as a world class CF;
- Rugani as a solid Juventus player and future Barza's replacement;
- Alex Sandro confirming WC status;
- Sturaro establishing as a good Juventus rotation player;
- Neto showing he can be of Juventus level, a very good backup and maybe future replacement for Buffon;
- New guys Mandzukic and Khedira fully adapted as rotation players and assuming a leadership role in the squad for the youngsters;
- Pereyra keeping his improvement;
- Asamoah getting healthy again and solidifying his status as a potential WC DM or great CM;
- Dybala finishing the season as a fix starter, only to explode to WC status next season;
- More contituity and stability for Coman, offering the grounds for him to explode in 1 or 2 years, finding his ideal position (inside forward from the left);
- Pogba's fitting to whole new role, with more responsibility and leadership;
- Draxler adaptation if he comes, only to become a WC trequartista/left inside forward next season;
- Cuadrado's adapting to a winger scheme and being replaced next year by Berardi (as an inside forward);
- Zaza's development of confidence (when confident, he's a good CF) and his position as a backup CF;
That's a whole LOT of new stuff, fitting and adaptation here. A lot. Can't really expect to WIN scudetto. What I expect is to fight for the title till the end, and get to 4-finals in CL. Minimal expectation this season is actually a bit lower than the last one, considering so many changes.
I really wanted no transition year, that it could go smoother. But it happened, and here we are.
However if developments run well, we'll be a HUGE force come next year, specially if we are able to keep Morata (and maybe even Pogba). There's a lot of talent to work with.
Injuries are not helping either. Preseason was kind of messy, and injuries are clearly related to that poor planning.
There's been a clear lack of planning and direction.
It can still work out and we may retain scudetto and remain between the 8 top in Europe - but it's definitely starting in a very improvised way.
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It's definitely a transitional season. I don't fully expect to win scudetto like the previous years.
I expect us to contend for it and develop chemistry and young guys:
- Morata established as a world class CF;
- Rugani as a solid Juventus player and future Barza's replacement;
- Alex Sandro confirming WC status;
- Sturaro establishing as a good Juventus rotation player;
- Neto showing he can be of Juventus level, a very good backup and maybe future replacement for Buffon;
- New guys Mandzukic and Khedira fully adapted as rotation players and assuming a leadership role in the squad for the youngsters;
- Pereyra keeping his improvement;
- Asamoah getting healthy again and solidifying his status as a potential WC DM or great CM;
- Dybala finishing the season as a fix starter, only to explode to WC status next season;
- More contituity and stability for Coman, offering the grounds for him to explode in 1 or 2 years, finding his ideal position (inside forward from the left);
- Pogba's fitting to whole new role, with more responsibility and leadership;
- Draxler adaptation if he comes, only to become a WC trequartista/left inside forward next season;
- Cuadrado's adapting to a winger scheme and being replaced next year by Berardi (as an inside forward);
- Zaza's development of confidence (when confident, he's a good CF) and his position as a backup CF;
That's a whole LOT of new stuff, fitting and adaptation here. A lot. Can't really expect to WIN scudetto. What I expect is to fight for the title till the end, and get to 4-finals in CL. Minimal expectation this season is actually a bit lower than the last one, considering so many changes.
I really wanted no transition year, that it could go smoother. But it happened, and here we are.
However if developments run well, we'll be a HUGE force come next year, specially if we are able to keep Morata (and maybe even Pogba). There's a lot of talent to work with.
i've got a friend who's a keeper coach at the school owned by a hungarian national keeper, and who was himself a goalkeeper with a 1st division team. they often go around the world to professional meetings, conferences and stuff. in short: he knows his shit. he told me that neto is probably a top3 second choice keeper, and thus juve have probably a top3 keeper duo now. i'm no expert in keepers but he is, so i tend to believe him. so underrated, but besides sandro, he's the most obvious great signing of the season.
About Dybala, of course he was hugely overpaid for.
But in this case, this is circunstancial, not due to some lack of negotiating skills. There was an auction, the guy is a great talent and a rare breed of intelligent player, available to sign for a Serie A club, with Serie A experience. That doesn't happen often.
As I've said before, of course in hindsight you can objectively judge a deal a year after and say if it was good business or not.
But IMO the fair judgement is within the context of situation. As of today, I think it was good business, even if it had to be overpaid, it's a good bet and that's it. Can go right or wrong. But talent is there, characteristics the team needs are there (intelligence / creativity).
Like the Isla deal. It turned up a disastrous deal, in hindsight. But at the moment he was signed, even though he was injured and Marotta again overpaid for him (in this case, probably to extend the payment in more installments), I thought he was a good signing then, a perfect player to be a RWB in Conte's 352.
Both judgements, the subjective one, at the moment of the deal, and the objective one, in hindsight, are equally important IMO. It can be a good gamble that doesn't work, it can be a bad gamble that works. Pereyra is the opposite. Apparently huge overpayment, average player, but the guy shows a lot of quality. Bad gamble IMO, in hindsight it was great.
But in this case, this is circunstancial, not due to some lack of negotiating skills. There was an auction, the guy is a great talent and a rare breed of intelligent player, available to sign for a Serie A club, with Serie A experience. That doesn't happen often.
As I've said before, of course in hindsight you can objectively judge a deal a year after and say if it was good business or not.
But IMO the fair judgement is within the context of situation. As of today, I think it was good business, even if it had to be overpaid, it's a good bet and that's it. Can go right or wrong. But talent is there, characteristics the team needs are there (intelligence / creativity).
Like the Isla deal. It turned up a disastrous deal, in hindsight. But at the moment he was signed, even though he was injured and Marotta again overpaid for him (in this case, probably to extend the payment in more installments), I thought he was a good signing then, a perfect player to be a RWB in Conte's 352.
Both judgements, the subjective one, at the moment of the deal, and the objective one, in hindsight, are equally important IMO. It can be a good gamble that doesn't work, it can be a bad gamble that works. Pereyra is the opposite. Apparently huge overpayment, average player, but the guy shows a lot of quality. Bad gamble IMO, in hindsight it was great.
Why not ?
Who saw Morata becoming a clutch player for us last season ?
Who saw Bonucci developing into a top defender especially when he was coming back of a mediocre season ?
Who saw freaking Allegri almost leading us to a treble ? Haha
There are reasons to be optimistic going ahead into the season , reasonable expectations or not.
Some players will step up.We can be sure of it.
Who saw Morata becoming a clutch player for us last season ?
Who saw Bonucci developing into a top defender especially when he was coming back of a mediocre season ?
Who saw freaking Allegri almost leading us to a treble ? Haha
There are reasons to be optimistic going ahead into the season , reasonable expectations or not.
Some players will step up.We can be sure of it.
