Giuseppe Marotta (149 Viewers)

[Zidaninho]

I thought Secco destroyed the club but this guy has gone a lot furhter.

Trying to put together a team based on football of the 80s

 

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[Bjerknes]

Welcome to the forum, but this isn't even based on the 80's. The players we had in the 80's were head and shoulders above these purchases.

 

[Vinman]

You predicted what exactly? Your overly pessimistic attitude about almost everything means you were right all along when Juventus goes through some tough times? I've been here since Calciopoli so if I haven't been here long enough then you were just as pessimistic about everything back then too, you saw all of this coming way back before Serie B?

meh no thanks, I feel that I could just listen to some Emo and get basically the same message.

Foe starters, I predicted 7th place last year while we were in week 2...dont believe me ?? Go back and take a look

 

[Vinman]

Well, Vinni said we wouldn't make top 4 last season, and he was right. The only reason why he's hated on Juventuz is because he doesn't share everyone's Kool-Aid and irrational hope based on nothing. And the best part about him is that while he loves the Azzurri, he absolutely abhors their mediocre players coming into Juve. That sounds like a much more proper fan than others around here.

Thanks Andy !!!

I feel like such a minority on here, dont you too ???

It doesnt take much to make these kids happy.....

 

[Red]

And the prediction that Juve would struggle to finish in the top half on their return to Serie A is to be ignored?

 

[Vinman]

And the prediction that Juve would struggle to finish in the top half on their return to Serie A is to be ignored?

I never said that.....

my prediction was that we would struggle to get a CL spot, which was a valid argument at the time, but we managed it anyways

This year is going to be a different story...

 

[Max]

I never said that.....

my prediction was that we would struggle to get a CL spot, which was a valid argument at the time, but we managed it anyways

This year is going to be a different story...

The same story as last year, actually.

 

[Vinman]

The same story as last year, actually.

yup

 

[Zidaninho]

Welcome to the forum, but this isn't even based on the 80's. The players we had in the 80's were head and shoulders above these purchases.

Spot on - what I mean though is the type of football of the 80s no longer works these days -

 

[Naggar]

I want to say it's too early for criticism on Marotta and Del Neri

but who am I kidding, this mercato was a big joke and the 442 sends us another 10 years behind after the 5 years Ranieri did
and what I hate most is that we completely lack spirit.. which I only see it after a DP goal or on Buffon's face
thanks to Marotta who loaned or co-owned our youth products for the likes of Pepe and the 12M question mark

 

[icemaη]

The thing with bringing in mediocre signings is that even if we manage to get that CL spot by luck, next summer we are
1. Going to make those damn loans permanent.
2. Going to run out of luck and be exposed for what we are. Mediocre.
Then start rebuilding all over again. When Del Neri and Marotta came in they said the foundation was there and no revolution was required. I agreed with that assessment. But then they went ahead and bought an expensive pack of average players changing the whole set-up.

 

[Zé Tahir]

How do you know we'll make those loan deals permanent?

 

[icemaη]

I'm not Nostradamus. So obviously I'm guessing here. My analogy comes from the assumption that if the team is good enough to make the CL, then they are good enough to carry on. Of course we would bring in a few more players. Also most of the loan deals except that of Aquilani is a paid one. The Quag one for example is at 4.5mil. Its no chump change. So if they have decent seasons, we might buy them outright.

 

[El Santo]

I'm not Nostradamus. So obviously I'm guessing here. My analogy comes from the assumption that if the team is good enough to make the CL, then they are good enough to carry on. Of course we would bring in a few more players. Also most of the loan deals except that of Aquilani is a paid one. The Quag one for example is at 4.5mil. Its no chump change. So if they have decent seasons, we might buy them outright.

I have a feeling we just brought them so they could help this team qualify for CL, and that's it. Once we accomplish that, we send them back and start our search for World Class players. I doubt Juventus as a company would like a mediocre team to play in the new Juventus stadium(that would be up and running for next season's campaign), that type of team would not attract anybody to come and watch the team live.

 

[icemaη]

I hope what you say becomes true then.

 

[- vOnAm -]

He's not doing a worse job than Secco. Thats ridiculous.

Yes we are getting mediocre Italians. But with no CL this season, his options and budgets are limited.

Im disappointed with how the last week went, but considering our situation in general he hasn't done terribly bad.

My hope is that Diego was sent to Wolfsburg on cheap for a reason, Dzeko, next season. Other than complete cash payment to rejuvenate our finance.

We didn't buy significant upgrades (if any at all in some positions), only significant youth. And the exit strategy from that is that we will at least have the opportunity to gain much of the investment back in a few years.

 

[MeTaL_KnighT]

I am sure; Secco's and Moratta's Damage More than Calciopoli

Yes we were down Serie B and lost Own many world Class footballer...But We were Rich Club even After Calciopoli but Secco and Moratta recklessly spent our money for Trash Players ...Look Our Team's footballer we have: Pepe , Martinez , Storari , Grosso etc...

And look our Coach is Del Neri...Lets Think; Could Del Neri be a coach before the Calciopoli ??? NO; Because we were very Rich and we have prestige !!!

Yes we were down Serie and we were unfairly punished ...But After Calciopoli OurBoard have many mistake and Our board should agreement quality Manager and Coach but lets see Who is Secco and Moratta ? Who is Zacheroni, Del Neri etc...We should Continue Deschamps but we have agreement with Zacheroni and Del Neri etc...

Beleive or not Secco's and Moratta's bad Strategies give more damage to Juventus

(And I am sorry My Terrible English)

 

[DeLiriuM]

He's not doing a worse job than Secco. Thats ridiculous.

Yes we are getting mediocre Italians. But with no CL this season, his options and budgets are limited.

Im disappointed with how the last week went, but considering our situation in general he hasn't done terribly bad.

My hope is that Diego was sent to Wolfsburg on cheap for a reason, Dzeko, next season. Other than complete cash payment to rejuvenate our finance.

We didn't buy significant upgrades (if any at all in some positions), only significant youth. And the exit strategy from that is that we will at least have the opportunity to gain much of the investment back in a few years.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

The thing with bringing in mediocre signings is that even if we manage to get that CL spot by luck, next summer we are
1. Going to make those damn loans permanent.
2. Going to run out of luck and be exposed for what we are. Mediocre.
Then start rebuilding all over again. When Del Neri and Marotta came in they said the foundation was there and no revolution was required. I agreed with that assessment. But then they went ahead and bought an expensive pack of average players changing the whole set-up.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well.

You either make it to the CL & carry on as you started (with a few minor improvements).
Or you don't make it, and you're back to square 1...

I have a feeling we just brought them so they could help this team qualify for CL, and that's it. Once we accomplish that, we send them back and start our search for World Class players. I doubt Juventus as a company would like a mediocre team to play in the new Juventus stadium(that would be up and running for next season's campaign), that type of team would not attract anybody to come and watch the team live.

We have almost never had the tendency to sign world class players. And I don't see it happening next year either, especially since it seems that the current board is trying to emulate what happened > 10 years ago.

 

[Trezegol17]

I wanted you here Beppe, now after the other teams made great signings and we got the likes of Pepe i hope you leave asap. With this team we should consider ourself damn lucky to even make it to the CL next year.