Giuseppe Marotta (182 Viewers)
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Brilliant. Marotta needs to start signing players who do not wish to play for Juventus. Only then will we have a winning side. The more in demand the players are, the better.
We should've joined a bidding war for Cavani, Özil and Mata instead of going for Llorente, Tevez and Pirlo. Preferably Javi Martinez over Vidal too.
We should've joined a bidding war for Cavani, Özil and Mata instead of going for Llorente, Tevez and Pirlo. Preferably Javi Martinez over Vidal too.
People (a minority thankfully) moan about Marotta all day long, but they won't find more than maybe 2 top clubs that have done better during the last 3 mercatos taking into account club prestige, league and budget. These would imo be Bayern and Dortmund, but that's it.
Not saying there should be no criticism, but let's stay real here.
Not saying there should be no criticism, but let's stay real here.
Some points from his interview last night which I thought were good.
" We know we underperformed in Europe and again in the Summer we'll be looking to get even more quality in "
" Vidal is happy at Juventus and we have absolutely no intentions of selling him "
" Everything is agreed for Pirlo we're just waiting for the right time to announce it "
" Conte's renewal isn't just about money "
" We won't sell any of our top players "
" We know we underperformed in Europe and again in the Summer we'll be looking to get even more quality in "
" Vidal is happy at Juventus and we have absolutely no intentions of selling him "
" Everything is agreed for Pirlo we're just waiting for the right time to announce it "
" Conte's renewal isn't just about money "
" We won't sell any of our top players "
Kolarov, the final frontier for Marotta...
A non Italian LB is a strange new world for him, smth that he always look up, but never realizes to touch. (unless its a Zeglier class disaster)
This is a quest that has been going for nearly a decade now, long before he took over, this is smth that goes beyond his very limited capabilities.
Hopefully this season will help him understand that we have enough depth and we need to focus at streghtening the starters, so that we can do better in Europe.
hopefully this summer will give him the opportunity to spot a wider variety of talents, beyond the limited choices of serie A...
A non Italian LB is a strange new world for him, smth that he always look up, but never realizes to touch. (unless its a Zeglier class disaster)
This is a quest that has been going for nearly a decade now, long before he took over, this is smth that goes beyond his very limited capabilities.
Hopefully this season will help him understand that we have enough depth and we need to focus at streghtening the starters, so that we can do better in Europe.
hopefully this summer will give him the opportunity to spot a wider variety of talents, beyond the limited choices of serie A...
Lion:
I know, but i am refferiing to LBs here.
Everybody can find CMs and SSs, there is a great abundance of them everywhere, with dozens of new talents appearing every year.
But for LBs, particularly in Italy, there is a striking absence of quality, in a degree that we cant even find a decent one to file in the NT.
Marotta has tried almost every option of Italian origin there is, wasting millions upon millions, failing transfer season after transfer season, to get a decent LB and instead of learning from his mistakes, he keeps bringning the Padoins/Pelusos, Grossos...
JJ:
We dont use a LB, because we dont have a LB, the tactical choice is not there, thats why Conte was forced to improvise and has changed formation...
I know, but i am refferiing to LBs here.
Everybody can find CMs and SSs, there is a great abundance of them everywhere, with dozens of new talents appearing every year.
But for LBs, particularly in Italy, there is a striking absence of quality, in a degree that we cant even find a decent one to file in the NT.
Marotta has tried almost every option of Italian origin there is, wasting millions upon millions, failing transfer season after transfer season, to get a decent LB and instead of learning from his mistakes, he keeps bringning the Padoins/Pelusos, Grossos...
JJ:
We dont use a LB, because we dont have a LB, the tactical choice is not there, thats why Conte was forced to improvise and has changed formation...
Nope, that's not true. We have players who can play left back currently in the squad (Peluso, Ogbonna, Chiellini, Caceres - and we also let De Ceglie go). Have a look elsewhere around the squad to see where the issue lies.
We have no use for a first choice quality left back within the current set up. If we are going to change to a 4-3-3 then we will probably need one (subjective - I'd use Ogbonna there with a more attacking side in front of him), and we will also need effective attacking wing forwards/wingers.
Conte changed initially from a 4-4-2/4-2-4 to a 4-3-3 to incorporate three key CM players, then to 3-5-2 to incorporate his three key central defenders.
We have no use for a first choice quality left back within the current set up. If we are going to change to a 4-3-3 then we will probably need one (subjective - I'd use Ogbonna there with a more attacking side in front of him), and we will also need effective attacking wing forwards/wingers.
Conte changed initially from a 4-4-2/4-2-4 to a 4-3-3 to incorporate three key CM players, then to 3-5-2 to incorporate his three key central defenders.
Peluso is a serie B player, he can be a starter in serie A and not in a team of our level,
if we opt to play witha player there, he will be used in almost every match and most esp in the important ones, Conte doesnt risk at the important ones, esp in the defense, he uses the starters as much as he cans, so we need to use a reliable solution, infortunately DC is not that...
Chiellini can play there, but he cannot be missed from the center of our defense, every time he misses from there, our defense suffers, so again he can only be used as a back up solution, only to cover the main LB.
Caceres could be an interesting option to explore, esp in our LWB set up, but for some reason Conte does not considers him for that, maybe because of his anterior spell with us, in that position...
I really dont know if Ogbonna can play as LB in a 4-3-3
We do have a use of a LB, and Licht is an example of that!
A Kolarov class LB could be used both in 4-3-3 or 3-5-2. But Marotta is simply uncapable of getting out, because his limited capabilities for that option, cant go beyond Italian players...
Marotta has been trying to sign a LB ever since he joined, but he fails in every single transfer window, either be winter or summer.
Chances are that we will lose Kolarov from Napoli once again...
As for the wingers, they would be essential only in a 4-4-2, not in 3-5-2 or 4-3-3, in that formation, we will use 3 CMs, 2SSs and one CF, Osvaldo better be the Llorente rotation and for the left SS spot, we have Tevez and Giovinco.
As for the the middle three, apart from the current 4 options, a new starter LB, would allow Asamoah to be be used there when not needed in the left flank.
The tactical options we will have with a new LB will allow us great tweakin, atm Conte's hands are tied, he has chosen the best formation to fit our material (lack of wingbacks,weak CBs, abundance of CMs and SSs)
Our defense need the extra defensive line in the midfield, because they cant handle the pressure by themselves, if were to reduce the ammount of midfielders, this pressure would raise sky high.
When Conte took over, we didnt have Barzagli and Licht, (and they only joined us because he demanded it, he also demanded for a LB, but MArotta has been failing ever since)
not the only thing we need for a 4 man defense is a starter, dedicated LB, this is the only reason that we cannnot field a formation with that compenent...
if we opt to play witha player there, he will be used in almost every match and most esp in the important ones, Conte doesnt risk at the important ones, esp in the defense, he uses the starters as much as he cans, so we need to use a reliable solution, infortunately DC is not that...
Chiellini can play there, but he cannot be missed from the center of our defense, every time he misses from there, our defense suffers, so again he can only be used as a back up solution, only to cover the main LB.
Caceres could be an interesting option to explore, esp in our LWB set up, but for some reason Conte does not considers him for that, maybe because of his anterior spell with us, in that position...
I really dont know if Ogbonna can play as LB in a 4-3-3
We do have a use of a LB, and Licht is an example of that!
A Kolarov class LB could be used both in 4-3-3 or 3-5-2. But Marotta is simply uncapable of getting out, because his limited capabilities for that option, cant go beyond Italian players...
Marotta has been trying to sign a LB ever since he joined, but he fails in every single transfer window, either be winter or summer.
Chances are that we will lose Kolarov from Napoli once again...
As for the wingers, they would be essential only in a 4-4-2, not in 3-5-2 or 4-3-3, in that formation, we will use 3 CMs, 2SSs and one CF, Osvaldo better be the Llorente rotation and for the left SS spot, we have Tevez and Giovinco.
As for the the middle three, apart from the current 4 options, a new starter LB, would allow Asamoah to be be used there when not needed in the left flank.
The tactical options we will have with a new LB will allow us great tweakin, atm Conte's hands are tied, he has chosen the best formation to fit our material (lack of wingbacks,weak CBs, abundance of CMs and SSs)
Our defense need the extra defensive line in the midfield, because they cant handle the pressure by themselves, if were to reduce the ammount of midfielders, this pressure would raise sky high.
When Conte took over, we didnt have Barzagli and Licht, (and they only joined us because he demanded it, he also demanded for a LB, but MArotta has been failing ever since)
not the only thing we need for a 4 man defense is a starter, dedicated LB, this is the only reason that we cannnot field a formation with that compenent...
I concede that, i was in the army back then,but that wasnt the point, the point is that our pre-Conte defense was a complete mess,
Conte has tried to replace everything (players/roles/formation/mentality) and despite reffering to a three man defense, it wasnt enough, he has built another line of defense, in front of them, to do the real work.
It was the optimal choice with the material at hand, nothing was guaranteed back then, we had one of the worst serie A defences, we couldnt know for sure, who would flop and who wouldnt, so we needed to field many bodies between the ball and the net, we needed to take the pressure off the defense.
There were unsecured times, we needed to take drastic measures, that would guarantee defensive solidarity, in older to build basis and confidence.
In time the team has settled in and we could make some additions/calibrations to further improve it.
We could not risk only 2CBs back then, as Canna says in my signature, the modern material simply wasnt good enough.
Our team has now matured, in a degree, that we can tweak those parts, that werent able to be tweaked then.
We now have confidence, we now have depth and in some positions, we have quality, proven quality!
We can have some confidence on the Barza and Chiellini partnership now, this is smth we didnt have pre-Conte.
We can have some confidence on Licht's ability to cover our right flank now, back then, we didnt have such option then.
When Conte made the option to switch to the three man defence, we didnt have that confidence, as a team, it WAS, the right thing to do.
So now, we could opt, for a four man defense, if we had a LB of Licht's caliber. But we dont!
And thats solely falls on Marotta's shoulders!
Conte has tried to replace everything (players/roles/formation/mentality) and despite reffering to a three man defense, it wasnt enough, he has built another line of defense, in front of them, to do the real work.
It was the optimal choice with the material at hand, nothing was guaranteed back then, we had one of the worst serie A defences, we couldnt know for sure, who would flop and who wouldnt, so we needed to field many bodies between the ball and the net, we needed to take the pressure off the defense.
There were unsecured times, we needed to take drastic measures, that would guarantee defensive solidarity, in older to build basis and confidence.
In time the team has settled in and we could make some additions/calibrations to further improve it.
We could not risk only 2CBs back then, as Canna says in my signature, the modern material simply wasnt good enough.
Our team has now matured, in a degree, that we can tweak those parts, that werent able to be tweaked then.
We now have confidence, we now have depth and in some positions, we have quality, proven quality!
We can have some confidence on the Barza and Chiellini partnership now, this is smth we didnt have pre-Conte.
We can have some confidence on Licht's ability to cover our right flank now, back then, we didnt have such option then.
When Conte made the option to switch to the three man defence, we didnt have that confidence, as a team, it WAS, the right thing to do.
So now, we could opt, for a four man defense, if we had a LB of Licht's caliber. But we dont!
And thats solely falls on Marotta's shoulders!