General Religion & Philosophy Discussion Thread (13 Viewers)

[Linebreak]

Sure. However, materials can act as a conduit to happiness. Deeper feelings always come from deeper places. In this era, to say that technology cannot provide happiness is just wrong. Who's to say some guys movie or video game is just as much his "fortress of solitude" as another man's mountain? The place these feeling come from don't change, however the triggers and processes do.

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You're the one refusing to acknowledge any other possibility than your own.

1 - Now that's quite different to saying material possessions can lead to tranquillity. They may help yes, but in and of their own they're nothing.

2 - this same guy that loves movies and video games will think absolutely nothing of them if he's, for example, diagnosed with cancer. He may keep watching/playing them to keep happy, but would trade them in the blink of an eye to get his health back.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

And once his cancer is cured through medical procedures(which involve technology and machines, remember), he'll return to his state of tranquility.

 

[Enron]

1 - Now that's quite different to saying material possessions can lead to tranquillity. They may help yes, but in and of their own they're nothing.

2 - this same guy that loves movies and video games will think absolutely nothing of them if he's, for example, diagnosed with cancer. He may keep watching/playing them to keep happy, but would trade them in the blink of an eye to get his health back.

1) It's not really different at all. Some people feel happiness when they're with people they love, those people act as a conduit just the same.

2) Doesn't really have much to do with tranquility. Death leads to a reactionary response. Weighting a scenario to favor your opinion, doesn't mean anything considering circumstance is also subjective. So a person might make a bucket list or they could just continue living like hey were before because in familiarity comes tranquility.

 

[Linebreak]

And once his cancer is cured through medical procedures(which involve technology and machines, remember), he'll return to his state of tranquility.

Many cancers can't be cured.

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1) It's not really different at all. Some people feel happiness when they're with people they love, those people act as a conduit just the same.

2) Doesn't really have much to do with tranquility. Death leads to a reactionary response. Weighting a scenario to favor your opinion, doesn't mean anything considering circumstance is also subjective. So a person might make a bucket list or they could just continue living like hey were before because in familiarity comes tranquility.

1) It is different - possessions can be replaced - people cannot (like family members)

2)Yes it does - your example suggests this person's tranquillity came from the fact that he loved movies/video games. But in reality, it was his good health, amongst other things, that allowed him to participate in these activities. The materials didn't provide the "happiness" (because it's certainly not tranquillity) it was other non-material things that allowed for it.

Money cannot buy you happiness, it can buy you sex, pleasure, short-lived joy, enactment of whims, etc, but not happiness and certainly not tranquillity.

 

[Raz]

:superhapp



Or a bucket full o' meth.

I prefer coke, but I guess if there's no coke...

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And once his cancer is cured through medical procedures(which involve technology and machines, remember), he'll return to his state of tranquility.

Nah. There are people who are tranquil with cancer, watch Bill Hicks, one hell of a comedian and one of the smarter ones too.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Happiness follows the money.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

So one can't be happy if they aren't able bodied (or suffering from a disease), Linebreak?

 

[ZoSo]

While I agree that money doesn't buy happiness, I don't think hobos are happy.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

oh yeah? ask diogenes what he thinks

 

[ZoSo]

who?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

forget him then , ask ascetics

 

[ZoSo]

 

[Raz]

oh yeah? ask diogenes what he thinks

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

fucking jesus and mohammed, ruined everything

 

[Enron]

Many cancers can't be cured.

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1) It is different - possessions can be replaced - people cannot (like family members)

2)Yes it does - your example suggests this person's tranquillity came from the fact that he loved movies/video games. But in reality, it was his good health, amongst other things, that allowed him to participate in these activities. The materials didn't provide the "happiness" (because it's certainly not tranquillity) it was other non-material things that allowed for it.

Money cannot buy you happiness, it can buy you sex, pleasure, short-lived joy, enactment of whims, etc, but not happiness and certainly not tranquillity.

Friends can be replaced. And not everyone finds his family a source of tranquility. For a lot of people, family can be a huge stresser.

Of course money doesn't buy happiness. However, the lack of or presence of money doesn't matter. Anyone can find peace anywhere, and in any setting, doing a multitude of things. Tranquility is just a state of peacefulness. The myth of the noble savage has been overplayed and no longer finds a place in the world. To say a guy living in a hut in some village with his entire family is more happy than a middle class european guy who lives alone in an apartment with a lot of material things is unfair. These two guys live in different cultures, have different stressers, different coping mechanisms and completely different circumstances. People aren't the same.

 

[Osman]

oh yeah? ask diogenes what he thinks

Hehe.

Swoooosh.



Madvillains head.

 

[swag]

Hehe.

Swoooosh.



Madvillains head.

Is that the remake of Herman's Head?

 

[Osman]

Lol at that intro, you keep giving away what an ancient ol' ginger git you are

 

[swag]

Dude, that show was at the genesis of The Simpsons greatness (more than half the voices on The Simpsons at least).

 

[Osman]

I know, but it looks so old in quality/style, its ridicolous, and yeah I recognized 3 voice actors.



P.S Also just wanted to remind you that you are soulless ginger again.