General Religion & Philosophy Discussion Thread (14 Viewers)

[Nzoric]

I'll just leave this here and be on my way

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...croscopic-thread-let-plug-brain-computer.html

 

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[Raz]

The Matrix is fiction, yes. It could be real, but there is no way to prove or disprove it.

Oh, the most important thing for me is happiness.

Happiness in general or what? Because happiness is a sideproduct of something, it is the stuff you get when you do something you like.

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I could ask you the same thing. Anyone wants to tally up how many times "are guys you still discussing this?" has been said in this thread? So you're marginally less repetitive than we are.

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For once you're right. I always wished I could be a real intellectual. But real intellectuals don't post on Juventuz for starters, they have debates with people who know what they're talking about.

Well I'm not saying don't talk at all, but when you read the same arguments from the same people against the same peoples counter arguments it can get a bit boring. Mix it up a little.

Oh and you can be intellectual here too, just pick people and topics accordingly

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Happiness and tranquility, perhaps?

 

[Raz]

Happiness and tranquility, perhaps?

Yeah, I'm quite a tranquil guy, but you can never get too much of that

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Yeah, I'm quite a tranquil guy, but you can never get too much of that

Well I don't mean to be greedy about it either.

 

[Raz]

Though I don't think happiness or tranquality you can get it just by wanting.

Those two things I think are incompatible with todays technocratic world, you will have to at one time or another try to go back to the opposite side of technology in order to achieve them.

The whole concept of technology always leaves you dry, you always have the next step, and as long as you have it you won't be really happy or tranquil, you will always look into the future this way, not to mention material things never bring you lasting happiness. As some chinise smart dude wrote - depressed you are when you live in past, anxious when you live in future, and tranquil when you live today.

If that is really the most important things in life my honest advice would be not to so focused on tech and science. Rather try to look for balance and use science and spirituality accordingly not one or other for every situation. You can't cook food with faith and you can't cure a broken heart with science.

 

[Martin]

Though I don't think happiness or tranquality you can get it just by wanting.

Those two things I think are incompatible with todays technocratic world, you will have to at one time or another try to go back to the opposite side of technology in order to achieve them.

The whole concept of technology always leaves you dry, you always have the next step, and as long as you have it you won't be really happy or tranquil, you will always look into the future this way, not to mention material things never bring you lasting happiness. As some chinise smart dude wrote - depressed you are when you live in past, anxious when you live in future, and tranquil when you live today.

If that is really the most important things in life my honest advice would be not to so focused on tech and science. Rather try to look for balance and use science and spirituality accordingly not one or other for every situation. You can't cook food with faith and you can't cure a broken heart with science.

Sorry, but what nonsense you just wrote there.

You can't be tranquil in a world full of technology? Why not? Maybe most people haven't figured out how yet, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.

 

[Enron]

Tranquility evolves as most things do.

 

[swag]

Man, where's that other Martin -- Martin Heidegger -- when you need him?

 

[Raz]

Sorry, but what nonsense you just wrote there.

You can't be tranquil in a world full of technology? Why not? Maybe most people haven't figured out how yet, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.

Because tranquility comes from within not from outside sources and for this to be possible you have to have a rock solid foundaition within, which isn't possible when your world is based on things that change constantly - theories, fashions and constant new gadgets and all that in my opinion is not the way to go if you want to achieve happiness and tranquility.

 

[Maddy]

Though I don't think happiness or tranquality you can get it just by wanting.

Those two things I think are incompatible with todays technocratic world, you will have to at one time or another try to go back to the opposite side of technology in order to achieve them.

The whole concept of technology always leaves you dry, you always have the next step, and as long as you have it you won't be really happy or tranquil, you will always look into the future this way, not to mention material things never bring you lasting happiness. As some chinise smart dude wrote - depressed you are when you live in past, anxious when you live in future, and tranquil when you live today.

If that is really the most important things in life my honest advice would be not to so focused on tech and science. Rather try to look for balance and use science and spirituality accordingly not one or other for every situation. You can't cook food with faith and you can't cure a broken heart with science.

always nice to meet a prophet hail hail

i especially like the part where you know how others feel in the modern world or should i say how they can't feel/live/be/dance/go skeet shooting and so on

 

[Raz]

Tranquility evolves as most things do.

You don't need faith or any other vodoo thing to check this, just ask people who have everything are they happy? People who search for smaller materials are they happy or will they be when they find it, and what happens when they do find it, won't it start the circle all over again?

Though it's interesting thing to say, can you elaborate?

 

[Martin]

Because tranquility comes from within not from outside sources and for this to be possible you have to have a rock solid foundaition within, which isn't possible when your world is based on things that change constantly - theories, fashions and constant new gadgets and all that in my opinion is not the way to go if you want to achieve happiness and tranquility.

Some things change constantly, like Android phones. But many things don't change much at all, like political theories. Or moral values. They are largely the same over the lifetime of a person.

 

[Maddy]

Because tranquility comes from within not from outside sources and for this to be possible you have to have a rock solid foundaition within, which isn't possible when your world is based on things that change constantly - theories, fashions and constant new gadgets and all that in my opinion is not the way to go if you want to achieve happiness and tranquility.

am an atheist, i live in one of the least religious countries in the world with consumerism growing out of our asses, yet my country is the happiest in the world.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/world-happiness-report-2012_n_1408787.html

how do you explain that??

 

[ALC]

Enough about God. Does Satan live? I say yes.

 

[swag]

always nice to meet a prophet hail hail

i especially like the part where you know how others feel in the modern world or should i say how they can't feel/live/be/dance/go skeet shooting and so on

Philosophers have ruminated on the topic of a heartless society in a technology-driven world for centuries. Kids may say technology is whatever happened since you were born, but you'd be foolish to believe that the social anxieties over technology were merely a modern problem. It goes back many generations.

 

[Raz]

always nice to meet a prophet hail hail

i especially like the part where you know how others feel in the modern world or should i say how they can't feel/live/be/dance/go skeet shooting and so on

Oh man, I never told I KNOW how they feel. Show me one example where tech or material stuff brought a true lasting happiness and I'll show n times more people who have nothing, but are happy.

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Enough about God. Does Satan live? I say yes.

 

[Martin]

am an atheist, i live in one of the least religious countries in the world with consumerism growing out of our asses, yet my country is the happiest in the world.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/world-happiness-report-2012_n_1408787.html

how do you explain that??

Is it because nzoric is really really cheerful and gets everyone in a great mood?

Damn, did I use up all my guesses?

 

[Maddy]

Is it because nzoric is really really cheerful and gets everyone in a great mood?

Damn, did I use up all my guesses?

actually immigrants is one of the few things that danes dont feel happy about

:rndh:

 

[swag]

What happened to all those studies that said Africans were the happiest people on the planet?

Sounds to me like heavy subjectivity is at play here -- like when Places Rated Almanac, published in Pittsburgh, PA, used to rank Pittsburgh every year as the best city to live in the U.S.