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keyword "probably".
Lets get biochemical
99% of all current afflictions presumed to be caused by red meat, are in fact due to the fat in the meat. This is logical
0% of studies has been done on a large population who abstain from processed meats (criminally unhealthy) and specify to lean red meat.
This 99% accounts for all the cardiovascular diseases (colorectal cancer really is nothing in comparison looking at cases worldwide). The root cause is the exceptionally bad distribution of saturated, unsaturated and polyunsaturated fats in animal fat, as wel as the usage of hard butter/fat to cook them . This has a very bad impact on HD and LD cholesterol, as around 30% of all unsaturated fat intake is processed into cholesterol.
Colorectal cancer is a case which cannot be linked to fat but the meat itself. There are two key factors here however : genetic predisposition, and the fact that the meat is usually cooked in hard fats. Hard fats (very high % saturated) at high temperature are known carcinogens.
To date, not a single study has shown any bad impact of lead red meat, cooked with a minimalist amount of butter or none at all (grill) on the body.
There are two known cattles which provide extreme low fat meat.
- Belgisch witblauw (belgium)
- Piemonteese (turin, italy)
I'm average 5 kg of lean red meat per week, but have no genetic cases of colon cancer in the family. To support my girlfriend (who has colon cancer in her family so she has to have it checked each 3 years), i've done 2 colonoscopy's the past 6 years. Both came back entirely clean of polyps
Grand majority of people who do colonoscopy's after their 30's will at least have some kind of polyp( not neccecarely bad) removed.
Anecdotal evidence, yes. But fun nontheless
Lets get biochemical
99% of all current afflictions presumed to be caused by red meat, are in fact due to the fat in the meat. This is logical
0% of studies has been done on a large population who abstain from processed meats (criminally unhealthy) and specify to lean red meat.
This 99% accounts for all the cardiovascular diseases (colorectal cancer really is nothing in comparison looking at cases worldwide). The root cause is the exceptionally bad distribution of saturated, unsaturated and polyunsaturated fats in animal fat, as wel as the usage of hard butter/fat to cook them . This has a very bad impact on HD and LD cholesterol, as around 30% of all unsaturated fat intake is processed into cholesterol.
Colorectal cancer is a case which cannot be linked to fat but the meat itself. There are two key factors here however : genetic predisposition, and the fact that the meat is usually cooked in hard fats. Hard fats (very high % saturated) at high temperature are known carcinogens.
To date, not a single study has shown any bad impact of lead red meat, cooked with a minimalist amount of butter or none at all (grill) on the body.
There are two known cattles which provide extreme low fat meat.
- Belgisch witblauw (belgium)
- Piemonteese (turin, italy)
I'm average 5 kg of lean red meat per week, but have no genetic cases of colon cancer in the family. To support my girlfriend (who has colon cancer in her family so she has to have it checked each 3 years), i've done 2 colonoscopy's the past 6 years. Both came back entirely clean of polyps
Grand majority of people who do colonoscopy's after their 30's will at least have some kind of polyp( not neccecarely bad) removed.
Anecdotal evidence, yes. But fun nontheless
On a population-level not much of that is really useful though. We know that overall consuming less red meat while increasing the consumption of vegetables and fruits is beneficial health wise. I'm not familiar with studies that differentiate between different types of red meats. Currently (based on the evidence we have) the max recommended consumption of red meat is 500g per week, because in general as you pointed out red meats contain higher amounts of saturated fat than for example fish or vegetable proteins. Vast majority of people who consume red meat don't do it by eating Belgisch witblauw or Piemonteese.
If you talk about "red meat in general" and "vegetables and fruit in general" : absolutely yes.
Just pointing out that there is a healthy path with lean red meat (the tenderloin cut) when cooked right
I'm considering people like me as a niche in the red meat eating population. Most go for hamburgers, sausages, fat meats, tons of butter etc
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Its proven that it doesnt. If you want i can explain and elaborate on the entire story why it was originally faultly considered it was
Just pointing out that there is a healthy path with lean red meat (the tenderloin cut) when cooked right
I'm considering people like me as a niche in the red meat eating population. Most go for hamburgers, sausages, fat meats, tons of butter etc
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Its proven that it doesnt. If you want i can explain and elaborate on the entire story why it was originally faultly considered it was
Generally he worked well within the Japanese social structure and has a particular strength within hardline economics, but I don't think the timing is much of a coincidence. He's become increasingly unpopular and these health issues are a good get-out clause. I imagine colitis also doesn't do well with stress. Being Japanese he might live another 30 years.
that was my initial thought too
