Gay Adoption (8 Viewers)

[AndreaCristiano]

The fact is that the only people who are against gay adoption are Christians and other religious people (and few exceptions).

That's nowhere near a fact

 

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[Kate]

That's his opinion he believes he spends to much is always out clubbing and never in a stable enough situation to be a parent.

Then that is him, and not all other gay people. Your anecdotal evidence is really not pertinent to the argument.

 

[swag]

That's his opinion he believes he spends to much is always out clubbing and never in a stable enough situation to be a parent.

That's true for a lot of heterosexual people as well. He at least has the self-awareness to know that. Many don't.

But that doesn't necessarily mean all gay people are just like him and therefore his assumptions for himself extend to every gay person out there, since they are all just like him.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

That's his opinion he believes he spends to much is always out clubbing and never in a stable enough situation to be a parent.

That would apply to anyone; it has nothing to do with him being gay.

 

[X Æ A-12]

One I'm not lying. Two last I checked everytime it goes up for vote it gets beat overwhelmingly even in places like California so you think that majority is just christians?

Umm yea I do I think that and California is not as liberal as it's reputation. The coastal cities Berkeley, SF, LA are a far cry from the rest of the state.

That's his opinion he believes he spends to much is always out clubbing and never in a stable enough situation to be a parent.

What does that have to do with him being gay?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Once again I never said gays shouldn't adopt I just asked where we draw the line and who decides this

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Umm yea I do I think that and California is not as liberal as it's reputation. The coastal cities Berkeley, SF, LA are a far cry from the rest of the state.


What does that have to do with him being gay?

He believes its inherabt in their lifestyle.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

That's true for a lot of heterosexual people as well. He at least has the self-awareness to know that. Many don't.

But that doesn't necessarily mean all gay people are just like him and therefore his assumptions for himself extend to every gay person out there, since they are all just like him.

Listen I don't believe all straights deserve kids either

 

[Kate]

Once again I never said gays shouldn't adopt I just asked where we draw the line and who decides this

As far as adoption goes, the line is drawn as soon as someone, anyone, is unfit to parent. By unfit I mean financially unstable, psychologically unstable, physically unable, or anything else that might jeopardise the physical or psychological development of the child. The sexual practices of the parents, which have nothing to do with their relationship to the child, do not fall under any of these categories.

 

[IrishZebra]

IZ, excuse my ignorance here, but i never thought Ireland was liberal with the pillow biters? Aren't you guys still a predominantly catholic country. Again excuse my ignorance, my info might be old.

We've come on in leaps and bounds in recent years. From 1993 decriminalisation to 2011 civil partnership to 2012 full blown gay marriage. The older generation are the ignorant ones but try as they might, they can't defeat the will of the people and human rights. The youth embrace everybody pretty much, except the gypsies

It's one of few things I'm very proud of about this country. Society itself, has been pro-gay or rather pro-tolerance for decades before the legislation however.


I'm more concerned about the poor having children than gays.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

As far as adoption goes, the line is drawn as soon as someone, anyone, is unfit to parent. By unfit I mean financially unstable, psychologically unstable, physically unable, or anything else that might jeopardise the physical or psychological development of the child. The sexual practices of the parents, which have nothing to do with their relationship to the child, do not fall under any of these categories.

So by those guidelines polyginists are ok?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

In the end a totally equal totally Utopian view of society can never work this and many other discussions will always be up for debate

 

[Kate]

So by those guidelines polyginists are ok?

If it is proven that they can provide a stable and loving home for the child, then yes. They might be discounted if partners are switched frequently, but this is only because adoption services like to provide stability and continuity for the child in question, not because of prejudices against sexual practices. Just as if a couple were about to be divorced and the woman was trying to then adopt on her own, preference would be given to a couple, heterosexual or homosexual. At least that is how it worked in England when I worked in adoption.

 

[Max]

Simply astounding. In the bigger picture it's not taking the opportunity away from a gay couple to have a child that disturbs me, but robbing a child the opportunity of having people who truly care for him or her.

To the anti-gays: what if a couple decides to have a child using an egg donor? They're "expanding the human race" after all...

 

[Zlatan]

Married couple.

I think at this very moment there are around 600-700 families in Serbia that await for adoption of some child.

But having a child that wakes up in the middle of night and sees his father in the living room siting on... his father, is just Poor children and their unformed brains.

Like its much better for a child to see his mother and father doing the same thing. That should be avoided regardless of the sexuality of the couple.

Seselj was/is just a political evil.

But I'd rather listen to Seselj's bullshit than watch population be filled with gay couples.

So hate speech that played a big part in a war where thousands of innocent people were killed is better than two guys... kissing eachother in public?

It was just a small picture of the whole situation. Having gay parents.. is gay.

Gays... seriously, not even animals are that sick.

There are gay animals.

And I don't mind that, as long as my eyes don't see them. I hope they stay in their basements if that makes them happy, it's enough for me. But having that public and watching that is too much, it should be a crime and worth of jail.

I don't want us to be compared with animals you see, we are the ones that carry and pass on intelligence, make new generation. Gay couples are useless for society.

Not sure if serious or trolling.

 

[Fake Melo]

Can't believe you guys are discussing Gay Adoption on a CL-night.

Bunch of faggots.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I think we were waiting for the games to start.

 

[Fake Melo]

Married couple.

I think at this very moment there are around 600-700 families in Serbia that await for adoption of some child.

But having a child that wakes up in the middle of night and sees his father in the living room siting on... his father, is just Poor children and their unformed brains.

 

[Fake Melo]

Close this thread already, frickin disusting.

What's next? Is marrying animals ok?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Close this thread already, frickin disusting.

What's next? Is marrying animals ok?

Or even worse, inter-racial marriage... Or no, women's rights.