Frederik Sørensen (27 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why is Bologna better for him to develop? He'll probably be 3rd choice at best there. No Serie A club is going to gamble on a 19 year old, whose only top flight experience is a handful of games, played out of position.

 

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[X Æ A-12]

Either keep him or sell all of him. None of that co own crap.

 

[Khunglongkhelua]

Why is Bologna better for him to develop? He'll probably be 3rd choice at best there. No Serie A club is going to gamble on a 19 year old, whose only top flight experience is a handful of games, played out of position.

Less pressure I think. And by let him go to Bolonga we might think about getting a new LB because neither him right now or Motta is good enough to be a Juve player.

Either keep him or sell all of him. None of that co own crap.

Yeah I think just in case somehow he develops to be a WC player we can get him back.

 

[Flamez]

Less pressure I think. And by let him go to Bolonga we might think about getting a new LB because neither him right now or Motta is good enough to be a Juve player.

Yeah I think just in case somehow he develops to be a WC player we can get him back.

Sorensen isn't a LB. Motta isn't a football player.

We will just get a LB if De Ceglie leaves us.

 

[adriano_c]

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Bologna wants to sign him outright.

They need to fuck off.

 

[Flamez]

20M

Torino style.

 

[Lucky Luke]

i like your style

 

[The Curr]

Sorensen > Ogbonna

So 30M.

 

[Lucky Luke]

sorensen for aguero?straight swap!

 

[The Curr]

Aguero + 5M.

 

[Joe]

Aguero + 5M.

We always sell our players at a low amount.

Aguero + 12M, and they have a deal.

 

[Hust]

Hell, put Sorensen in the fucking goal!

 

[Bjerknes]

When we loan this guy there will be the usual crew defending it and claiming how much Sorensen will learn at another club. Then when he finds himself at Bari in another five years the same individuals will claim he's not good enough. It's such a shame how people can't connect the dots.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

And what if he is actually not good enough? Or is that impossible?

The best young player we have developped over the past 10 or more years is Marchisio. Yet he's, supposedly, not good enough to be on the team either. So the "connecting the dots" part goes both ways in this whole youth players discussion.

 

[Lo-Pan]

And what if he is actually not good enough? Or is that impossible?

The best young player we have developped over the past 10 or more years is Marchisio. Yet he's, supposedly, not good enough to be on the team either. So the "connecting the dots" part goes both ways in this whole youth players discussion.

Well said.

Do we see ANY of our youngsters coveted by top teams??? As Buck said, Marchisio is by far the most successful, he went out on loan, played often, and came back, and has been part of our first team for a while now. At the same time as he was out on loan, so were many others, mainly for points of reference, de ceglie and giovinco. de ceglie has played a lot for us, and shown us 1-2 months of competency at left back. Giovinco, when he played for us, was always lively, but due to our strictly defensive 4-4-2 under both ranieri, and then in the mind of delneri, he was deemed too lacking in ability to defend if deployed on the left wing. Yet at PArma, he has played so well that Prandelli has made him part of the azzurri squad...yet the fact remains, he can only get first team action, seemingly, at PARMA...

As for Marchisio...I can concede, that he was played slightly out of position this season, nd i mean SLIGHTLY, as I saw him for 15 games at least, playing as one of three central midfielders. At best, his development has stunted.

Pasquato did well at Modena...and Marrone did OK at Siena...Giovinco did very well at Parma, well enough to become a regular international, although I see him as a Miccoli...but other than this?????

Sorensen was here ON LOAN...and he has no chance against Lichsteiner. Also, he has no chance against Chiellini, Bonucci and Barzagli...so when its a choice of 4th choice centreback, or 'nobody knows whether first team or sub' at bologna...its obviously better for our young viking, to go where he has a chance of first team action.

he did incredibly well when called upon last season. He has very obvious raw talent...so much raw talent, that he put an established right back (motta) to shame...

Some people, who dont understand football, see loans and co-ownerships as pure folly. I see loans and co-ownership as WE HAVE NO PRESENT PLACE IN THE FIRST TEAM FOR THE PLAYER BUT WE DONT WANT TO LOSE HIM. co-ownerships to teams far less than us, are obviously going to lead to, if the player excells, the player coming back to us...some can scream 'la formica atomica!'...but he has a stern and large ego, and i cannot criticize him for simply wanting to play serie A first team, and also la nazionale...

rather than debte more, i prefer to listen to a track a mate gave me, which i fucking love...

 

[Fake Melo]

And what if he is actually not good enough? Or is that impossible?

The best young player we have developped over the past 10 or more years is Marchisio. Yet he's, supposedly, not good enough to be on the team either. So the "connecting the dots" part goes both ways in this whole youth players discussion.

True Buck. It's not like there are coming Xavis and Iniestas out of our youth teams. I think Andy wants Masiello back.

 

[Kasaki]

And what if he is actually not good enough? Or is that impossible?

The best young player we have developped over the past 10 or more years is Giovinco. Yet he's good enough to be on the team, but isn't. So the "connecting the dots" part goes both ways in this whole youth players discussion.

Fixed

 

[Nenz]

And what if he is actually not good enough? Or is that impossible?

The best young player we have developped over the past 10 or more years is Marchisio. Yet he's, supposedly, not good enough to be on the team either. So the "connecting the dots" part goes both ways in this whole youth players discussion.

Marchisio is not a better player than Giovinco. The development of both players makes for a good case study. Your statement is ironic because Marchisio was on loan for only one season and was played regularly for the Juventus first team for the remainder of his career up to now while talented players like Giovinco spent much more time at Empoli, our bench and Parma. Who is more talented is obvious but which of the two players were nurtured better? Marchisio's development is characterised by consistency and exposure to quality. Needless to say the management was very patient with him. Giovinco's development on the other hand has been constantly interrupted and has been shipped out to develop in an inferior football club, surrounded by mediocrity in terms of the squads in which he played all the way to the coaching staff and club infrastructure - completely inferior to Juventus. My point is that even though Giovinco seemingly is more talented, it was Marchisio who has had the more successful career. Why? Look no further than their development. Coming from the same group of the same youth academy, it was the period where they had begun maturing into senior professionals that the players took separate paths as dictated by the club. Marchisio has playing consistency and quality of support to thank for the success of his career, Giovinco (and many players like him) have a lack there of to blame for their career failures.

Don't you think that question has already been answered for us? That Sorenson is good enough? 19 years of age and playing with more strength and conviction than the majority of our squad. Half ownership of him is 4M euro already. He seems to have developed well in one year as a back-up RB last season. Why not let him keep developing, contesting that position and keep the likes of Lichtsteiner and Motta honest? Why did we have to buy two RBs and are looking to buy a CB already this mercato? From the Marchisio-Giovinco case study its clear that this policy of loaning promising players to inferior clubs during a crucial stage of development is a blatant failure. In the mean time we buy mediocrity to replace them (Motta) and wonder why we can't afford a few extra million for Aguero, why these promising players of ours keep failing abroad an why we can't finish higher than 7th place!

 

[JuveJay]

What happens when a young player is backup for say, 2-3 seasons running and they play 0-10 games in that time? Is it better for them to have stayed with us? What if we have 10 players in such a position? 15 players?

 

[Nenz]

What happens when a young player is backup for say, 2-3 seasons running and they play 0-10 games in that time? Is it better for them to have stayed with us? What if we have 10 players in such a position? 15 players?

That's where you don't sign Motta or Silvestre.