Frederik Sørensen (33 Viewers)

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
you spent 500k to buy and have the opportunity to make 9-10M if you wanted to sell...how is that bad business?
Because it is. :D

Look, if you buy a young guy with the hope for potential, why would you risk screwing yourselves out of a lot of money on a co-ownership. Either you loan the player so he develops and comes back stronger or you sell if you just don't have faith in him. It isn't good for us because if we want him back we end up paying MORE money on top of the original 500k and it certainly isn't good for the player who gets caught in a very frustrating tug of war.

Either you want the player or you don't, wanting half of him is just retarded.
 

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Fake Melo

Ghost Division
Sep 3, 2010
37,077
I know this.

Why would you joke about that? :D

Sensitive.
:D

Honestly speaking though. Read somewhere that some youngsters could be offloaded to lower the actual cost. I think Parma will be more interested in our youngsters than our money, who are they going to buy? :D

Although I understand the co-ownerships for both parts, I agree with you that it's kind of stupid.

Did you hear what Sørensen did back in August? He was home in Denmark the last few days of the mercato, Juve & Bologna were close to making a co-own deal for him and they tried to call him to confirm but he didn't pick it up. Both Juve & Bologna called him for a whole day but he didn't pick it. Probably knew what was coming :D
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
:D

Honestly speaking though. Read somewhere that some youngsters could be offloaded to lower the actual cost. I think Parma will be more interested in our youngsters than our money, who are they going to buy? :D

Although I understand the co-ownerships for both parts, I agree with you that it's kind of stupid.

Did you hear what Sørensen did back in August? He was home in Denmark the last few days of the mercato, Juve & Bologna were close to making a co-own deal for him and they tried to call him to confirm but he didn't pick it up. Both Juve & Bologna called him for a whole day but he didn't pick it. Probably knew what was coming :D
:howler:

Smart kid.

Poor Magnusson has 4.5 years to get mind fucked now.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,757
Did you hear what Sørensen did back in August? He was home in Denmark the last few days of the mercato, Juve & Bologna were close to making a co-own deal for him and they tried to call him to confirm but he didn't pick it up. Both Juve & Bologna called him for a whole day but he didn't pick it. Probably knew what was coming :D
If true, legendary.
 

LowLife

Senior Member
Jan 7, 2011
4,967
:D

Honestly speaking though. Read somewhere that some youngsters could be offloaded to lower the actual cost. I think Parma will be more interested in our youngsters than our money, who are they going to buy? :D

Although I understand the co-ownerships for both parts, I agree with you that it's kind of stupid.

Did you hear what Sørensen did back in August? He was home in Denmark the last few days of the mercato, Juve & Bologna were close to making a co-own deal for him and they tried to call him to confirm but he didn't pick it up. Both Juve & Bologna called him for a whole day but he didn't pick it. Probably knew what was coming :D
He doesn't have an agent?
 

Tak!

Senior Member
Jun 23, 2011
4,176
Yes, co-deals has worked wonders for us... I can't think of any co-deal we've ever made that actually was successful. But as usually we will never - ever- learn from anything we've ever done before. As long as we continue to make the same misstakes as we've always done we'll continue to be happy. Because our people we've put to be responsible love to be miserable and since misery loves company...

I need to add that I feel sorry for the player careers we continue to ruin. I'm fairly certain that even if we had players like Messi, Iniesta and Xavi from our youths they would never have succeeded and instead become Lanzafame, Paquato and Daud simply because we have no idea how to make use of players below 25 years old... the talents we've had and talents that hasn't become our new ADP's etcetera and we still think we're doing a good job with our kids. That our management has failed for the past 20 years with this issue can even be looked at be reviewing players that have been successful but not been used here. Konko (kind of), Miccoli, Giovinco, Isaksson, Criscito, Cassani, Balzaretti (kind of), De Santis, Masiello, Maresca, Moretti, Sculli, Carini, Brighi, Blasi. I'm not entirely accurate with these names of course, just typed as many as I could remember from the top of my head.
 

Bezzy

The Bookie Queen
Jun 5, 2010
20,827
:D

Honestly speaking though. Read somewhere that some youngsters could be offloaded to lower the actual cost. I think Parma will be more interested in our youngsters than our money, who are they going to buy? :D

Although I understand the co-ownerships for both parts, I agree with you that it's kind of stupid.

Did you hear what Sørensen did back in August? He was home in Denmark the last few days of the mercato, Juve & Bologna were close to making a co-own deal for him and they tried to call him to confirm but he didn't pick it up. Both Juve & Bologna called him for a whole day but he didn't pick it. Probably knew what was coming :D
A true juventino :touched:
 

da_ledgeaun

The Juve Freak
Jun 2, 2007
6,611
We always had really good potential youngsters, I would really hate it if Sorensen is gone to another team on co ownership,loans can be ok, but no coowns,we have never gotten good results,except probably Chiellini who we were lucky and nearly lost out to Fiorentina too.. Marchi, had he been on coown in Empoli,we probably would have never seen him here again,lucky he was on loan only..
Im expecting the worst but hoping for the best with this transfer..Im gonna be really disappointed he does leave us and not be back with us..
 

adriano_c

Senior Member
May 26, 2009
6,540
I'm fine with a co-ownership arrangement. If Bologna is willing to make an investment in the player, that shows an intent to play him (more so than he'd do at Juventus, anyway). That's obviously the most important thing for him. He's at a crucial state in development and it'd probably stunt his growth as a player to hang around Vinovo.

If he becomes the player he's shown some promise enough to turn into, whatever, pay Bologna off. These deals always function with the implicit understanding that the "big team" is in a way funding said player's maturation process anyway. It's a win for both sides. Sure, on occasion, you'll have the "small team" try to get cheeky and resist the deal thinking of a bigger possible payoff elsewhere, but if Juventus really wants him back, it shouldn't be an issue.

Besides, we paid what? 200k for him? Something like that? Sell his half for 3m now. In a couple of years, if he's worthwhile, buy it back for at most 10m (and that's the high-end, assuming he's a European caliber CB). 7m in all for a ready-made defender that probably wouldn't exist without the whole co-ownership scenario.
 

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