Formation 4-2-3-1.......pick your players! (11 Viewers)

my_hitzJUVE

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Dec 14, 2002
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#21
++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
how can you even compare Trez to Miccoli my_hitz.

the one's to compare is DP and Miccoli as they have the same style and they play in the same position.

there is no way on earth that Miccoli can play alongside DP in a twp man attack!!

BTW, you underestimate Trez. dont forget he was last year's top scorer.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT UNDERESTIMATE TREZEGOL...I LOVE HIM..i know he is one of the our best player....but i'm talking about the current form...

can u tell me why micolli can't play in trezegol position...i think he also can score the goal....for me as long as he play in forward...he can be our striker...think about thuram, zambrotta n and di vaio position before this....player position can be manipulated depends on situation...but not too vary changes...

may be u can compare with lopez n recoba position in the last two matches in the serie a....from forward left/ att.mid....both of them become the striker..n they scored brilliantly....
 

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Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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#22
++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++


So what? He's not the same guy now.
have you ever heard of something called an injury! :rolleyes:
or haven't you even noticed that he's been a lone up front in a wierd formation :rolleyes:

FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT UNDERESTIMATE TREZEGOL...I LOVE HIM..i know he is one of the our best player....but i'm talking about the current form...

can u tell me why micolli can't play in trezegol position...i think he also can score the goal....for me as long as he play in forward...he can be our striker...think about thuram, zambrotta n and di vaio position before this....player position can be manipulated depends on situation...but not too vary changes...

may be u can compare with lopez n recoba position in the last two matches in the serie a....from forward left/ att.mid....both of them become the striker..n they
i know it's possible for players to take different roles, but you can't play two second strickers-type players even if you were in Mars!!

Zambrotta and others have the quality to play in different positions (i.e. he's not bad defensively....etc.)
but Miccoli's finishing skills is nowhere near Trez's. he's short, and his positioning isn't that good enough to play at the head of the team.

i know, it is possible, but then again, it's also possible to have Buffon play as an attacker!!
 
OP
Jan 1, 2003
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  • Thread Starter #23
    ++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++


    So what? He's not the same guy now.
    You unfaithful bastard:down:


    :D


    to slack:

    I'm afraid a more defensive 4-2-3-1 will leave Trezeguet lost in the blue. All in all, the 4-3-1-2 should and will definitely stay as our #1 formation. I think the 4-2-3-1 will be used in case of "emergency." But I believe we will see more than a little of it.

    Ballack we be absolute perfect for this! .....if we could get rid of Camo. But as you know I don't like changes. I advocate the faithful 4-3-1-2.
     

    Majed

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    Jul 17, 2002
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    #27
    sure...that was pretty harsh :rolleyes:

    i was shocked when i read that, but then again, i thougt u knew each other well enough to say that while joking.
     

    Stu

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    Jul 14, 2002
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    #30
    I myself actually fancy the 4-2-3-1 formation, but as slack earlier pointed out, it is very sophisticated and would take alot of changes in our mentality and squad.

    Firstly, I fine that Tacchinardi tends to bring out his best when playing as the lone holding/anchoring midfielder, so we would need him to try to adapt to this formation better than he has done so far, or simply find someone to replace him (which I would try to avoid).

    Secondly, Trezeguet has struggled without Del Piero beside him and finds it hard to get into the game in this formation, thus the need to find a replacement, which would be an extremely big waste of talent on our part (referring to Trez), would come into play.

    Slack pointed out that there are also more disadvantages concerning this formation, so I wont bother to waste my time going back through them..

    Overall I think our 4-3-1-2 scheme is the best for this current team.
     

    Stu

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    Jul 14, 2002
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    #31
    my_hitz,
    How can you even think of comparing Miccoli with Trezeguet? First of all, they play in two different positions, so saying that Miccoli is better than Trez at the moment really is fruitless and silly. And secondly, Trez is coming off of a lengthy time of absence due to injury, so to expect the best of him already is kind of over optimistic and unrealistic. Remember how long it took DP to get back to his best?
     

    slack

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    Dec 13, 2002
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    #32
    That's what Lippi supposedly said,

    “Milan and Juventus have two different philosophies of football. I have always adapted my tactics to the players at hand, which is why in seven years the style changed continually. But we do both share an aggressive and determined attitude.”

    System-to-player school of thought ... but leaving the coach to deal with the whims of Moggi doesn't sound too right.
     
    Jul 12, 2002
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    #33
    ++ [ originally posted by Christian_Vieri ] ++
    Well yall obviously missed the :D
    '

    Certainly you and I are on good terms mate, my objection was not to your intent which I understood completely, it was the terminology which I disaprove of. It's really not you, it's me.
     
    OP
    Jan 1, 2003
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  • Thread Starter #34
    I was quite sure you knew my intent Ian. Your words were quite clear to me. That was intended towards some who after reading "I apologize" just assumed that I 'attacked' you.
    Don't know why the word "bastard" contains such a degree of magnitude while people running around here aiming cuss words towards others aren't shocking at all.

    We certainly are on good terms mate. Forgive me for not knowing you had a bad association with the word.
     

    Majed

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    Jul 17, 2002
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    #35
    maybe because saying "bastard" is very offensive and it really does indirectly mean things about that person's parents. :rolleyes:

    C_V, you have to consider that this is an international forum, memebers from different cultures or backgrounds might take it differently.
     
    OP
    Jan 1, 2003
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  • Thread Starter #36
    Just like when members of different cultures or backgrounds may mean it differently (w/o knowing the meaning of this english word varies around the world). "Bastard" isn't nearly a word of that sort as you portray it to be (to me or anyone else I know).

    Thanks for the advice and the rolleyes.
     
    Jul 12, 2002
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    #37
    ++ [ originally posted by Christian_Vieri ] ++
    I was quite sure you knew my intent Ian. Your words were quite clear to me. That was intended towards some who after reading "I apologize" just assumed that I 'attacked' you.
    Don't know why the word "bastard" contains such a degree of magnitude while people running around here aiming cuss words towards others aren't shocking at all.

    We certainly are on good terms mate. Forgive me for not knowing you had a bad association with the word.
    I don't mean to discourage you from expressing yourself, but the word does have a degree of magnitude for me.
     

    Majed

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    Jul 17, 2002
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    #38
    ++ [ originally posted by Christian_Vieri ] ++
    Just like when members of different cultures or backgrounds may mean it differently (w/o knowing the meaning of this english word varies around the world). "Bastard" isn't nearly a word of that sort as you portray it to be (to me or anyone else I know).

    Thanks for the advice and the rolleyes.
    i'm sure your intentions were good :)
     

    Cleverpetey

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    Sep 15, 2002
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    #39
    Imo we should play a 442 Diamond:

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    -----------Del Piero------------Trezeguet-----------
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------Nedved-------------------------
    --Zambrotta-------------------------Camoranesi---
    -------------------------Davids-------------------------
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    -Pessotto------Iuliano-------Tudor-------Thuram-
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------Buffon-------------------------
     

    Majed

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    Jul 17, 2002
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    #40
    i would suggest that, but the problem is that Davids is not a holding midfielder, so it's hard for him to destribute the ball. all he does is get the ball.

    That's why a player like Tacchi is needed with him.


    check out post #2 in this thread to see my formation(with transfers).
     

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