[FML] Serie A 2009/2010 (19 Viewers)

[king Ale]

Every big team gets a little ref help, isn't it what you were saying to me?
This year Inter got 5 penalties for and 7 penalties against them. They got whooping 7 red cards (not counting the coach's red cards, only the players) while their opponents got 4 (on their matches against Inter).

Now, just by looking at the numbers one could say that perhaps all these calls (penalties +red cards) were justified. Some of them indeed were. As someone who watched most of Inter's matches, I know that some of these calls weren't.
But the bare fact that Inter got more calls (pen. +red cards) against them than in their favor excludes the ref help "all the big teams get" argument.

Milan got 8 penalties in their favor and only 2 penalties against them. Even without checking at all, I can tell you that at least 4 of these were dives, phantom penalties or very soft penalties. I remember offside goals they scored and clear goals not given against them.

Why are you using past seasons? Shall Juve be punished right now for the help we got in Moggi's time?
Hell, even last year Milan got more ref help than anyone else. We even had a thread about it in this forum.
Only this year should count and you're really biased if you don't see that the refs threat Inter and Milan differently.

I'm not referring to the past seasons. I just don't see the refs being particularly anti-Inter this season. Mourinho's got the impression because comparing the past seasons, Inter are not getting the refs helps. The refs are now treating them like the other teams and that's what he calls being anti-Inter.

 

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[Mark]

What is G4TechTV?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4techtv

...a channel devoted to computers and technology...

 

[Nyall2010]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4techtv

...a channel devoted to computers and technology...

Correction: A channel dedicated to anti-social virgins.

 

[Mark]

no, that's inter channel.

 

[Alen]

I'm not referring to the past seasons. I just don't see the refs being particularly anti-Inter this season.
Mourinho's got the impression because comparing the past seasons, Inter are not getting the refs helps. The refs are now treating them like the other teams and that's what he calls being anti-Inter.

But what does Mourinho know about the help they've been getting in the past seasons? He wasn't their coach when Inter robbed the scudetto from Roma.
Last year Inter did get 2-3 scandalous ref decisions in their favor, but that was it. Even last year his team wasn't helped by the refs overall. Last year they didn't get more help than the other teams and they certainly got less help than Milan, for example. Actually, the moment Mourinho came to Inter and started attacking the refs and moaning, you could notice how the refs started treating Inter differently compared to the 2 seasons under Mancini.

And if the refs suddenly decided to be fair (Does this mean that Moratti doesn't "own" the refs anymore? What happened then in the meantime? He was fixing this league and suddenly it all changed?) why aren't they doing it with Milan?
Or do you think that Milan also aren't getting helped more than the other teams, like Livorno or Bologna, for example? The calls, some of them scandalous, Milan are getting in their favor are only simple human errors, right? Simple errors that always go in their favor, but never against them.
Some lucky folks these Milanisti are.

And it's interesting how the Juve fans keep closing their eyes in front of that, only because by cheating Milan can take the scudetto from Inter. Milan are smart, they cheat and they have the entire nation on their side. I wish Juve were that smart before 2006.

 

[king Ale]

But what does Mourinho know about the help they've been getting in the past seasons? He wasn't their coach when Inter robbed the scudetto from Roma.

I wasn't Inter coach at that moment either.

Last year Inter did get 2-3 scandalous ref decisions in their favor, but that was it. Even last year his team wasn't helped by the refs overall. Last year they didn't get more help than the other teams and they certainly got less help than Milan, for example. Actually, the moment Mourinho came to Inter and started attacking the refs and moaning, you could notice how the refs started treating Inter differently compared to the 2 seasons under Mancini.

Which was treating them quite fairly.

And if the refs suddenly decided to be fair (Does this mean that Moratti doesn't "own" the refs anymore? What happened then in the meantime? He was fixing this league and suddenly it all changed?) why aren't they doing it with Milan?

:wth:

I never claimed such a thing.

Or do you think that Milan also aren't getting helped more than the other teams, like Livorno or Bologna, for example? The calls, some of them scandalous, Milan are getting in their favor are only simple human errors, right? Simple errors that always go in their favor, but never against them.
Some lucky folks these Milanisti are.

Every team has the refs' help in their favor every so often. We had them too (after Calciopoli), some of which were scandalous. As I have never moaned about Inter getting those 50-50 calls in their favor, I'm not going to do it when it happens to Milan.

 

[Fred]

Balkans and their conspiracy theories, they even thought Real fixed their Cup game against Alcorconv

 

[Nyall2010]

no, that's inter channel.

its still the only channel in italy showing live champions league games.

 

[Nicholas]

its still the only channel in italy showing live champions league games.

Must be a new channel then, never noticed this one before.

 

[blondu]

David is not only a good freekick taker or crosses. He's almost a complete player for his position. Perfect vision on the field, perfect stamina, very good defensively and knows how to open up a space for his team mates.

I hope he doesn't retire and return to the field back soon.

i can't see what you see at today's david, not the manure, real madrid's david

I see you have backup for Del Piero.

 

[rounder]

But what does Mourinho know about the help they've been getting in the past seasons? He wasn't their coach when Inter robbed the scudetto from Roma.
Last year Inter did get 2-3 scandalous ref decisions in their favor, but that was it. Even last year his team wasn't helped by the refs overall. Last year they didn't get more help than the other teams and they certainly got less help than Milan, for example. Actually, the moment Mourinho came to Inter and started attacking the refs and moaning, you could notice how the refs started treating Inter differently compared to the 2 seasons under Mancini.

And if the refs suddenly decided to be fair (Does this mean that Moratti doesn't "own" the refs anymore? What happened then in the meantime? He was fixing this league and suddenly it all changed?) why aren't they doing it with Milan?
Or do you think that Milan also aren't getting helped more than the other teams, like Livorno or Bologna, for example? The calls, some of them scandalous, Milan are getting in their favor are only simple human errors, right? Simple errors that always go in their favor, but never against them.
Some lucky folks these Milanisti are.

And it's interesting how the Juve fans keep closing their eyes in front of that, only because by cheating Milan can take the scudetto from Inter. Milan are smart, they cheat and they have the entire nation on their side. I wish Juve were that smart before 2006.

No question. But would you honestly want Inter to win the Scudetto again? It's blatantly obvious that they are the strongest team in Italy. Winning the Scudetto would only mean they'll get stronger, they'll become more stable and that can't be good for us. Milan, on the other hand, I am not too worried about. Their defense is laughable, they rely too much on Ronaldinho in attack. Their midfield is getting old, slow, and too predictable. If they win the scudetto, chances are they will actually believe that their pathetic squad is good enough and won't be making too many much needed changes.

In short, if Milan win the Scudetto, our rivals will probably get worse.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Galliani: "Forza Inter e Juve"

 

[JuveJay]

*snigger*

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Yepes to replace Favalli! That's some real rejuvenation.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

what happens when milan replaces inter at the top of the table?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

what happens when milan replaces inter at the top of the table?

Galliani will offer 4-years extension to Beckham and Seedorf.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

they will retire as milan legends ... maldini who?

 

[Bjerknes]

He had to leave it in order to even be considered for a place at the World Cup to begin with.

Don't blame Beckham for the poor quality of the MLS. And he didn't "leave" them. He's on loan. And playing a lot more football than a 35 year old should be playing.

WHAT?

He DID fucking leave them. Beckham left them for half a fucking season last year as well. He tried to force his way out of his contractual agreement through arm twisting, but failed, yet still got his eventual loan after lying to his club and supporters. Ask any real fan of LA Galaxy about Beckham and they will tell you he is a weasel.

And you DEFEND this moron?

You couldn't be more wrong about this.

I wish there were a lot more players like him who would do whatever it takes to represent their country.

That's rich!

He tore his Achilles tendon. He's done. there is no way he can make it in time, and that's too bad. He really wanted to play.

I'm going to throw a party because of it. I think it's great. That little weasel deserves not to play because he's nothing but a money grubbing little whorebag. He's very similar to Giuseppe Rossi in his loyalty, albeit from a club, not country, level.

But the underlying tone of some people here that are actually happy that someone is injured is really sickening

Sickening or not, I'm glad he's done. And I think anybody that likes that guy is an idiot.

Agreed, I am no Beckham fan but I respect his passion and how much he cares for his NT in an era where so few players do. After joining the galaxy he could have just relaxed and taken the easy path, hanging out in LA and watching his bank account grow but instead he put in real effort on the pitch for a player of his age. Seeing him crying on the sideline was depressing, you don't have to be a professional football player to understand how upsetting it must be to him to miss out on this opportunity because of injury. His passion for the game and not just celebrity status is refreshing to see.

Bull-fucking-shit. That guy doesn't give a rat's ass about anybody but himself.

Again, just ask any real Galaxy supporter.

Oh boy, wait until Andy reads this.
Wonder what will he have to say about a guy who underrated the MLS so much and left it just to get a place at the WC.

Glad it blew up in his face.

 

[Firestarter]

I'm going to throw a party because of it. I think it's great. That little weasel deserves not to play because he's nothing but a money grubbing little whorebag. He's very similar to Giuseppe Rossi in his loyalty, albeit from a club, not country, level.

No man, I wish he'd gone to South Africa and cause as much media fuckery to England as possible. Meh. Then again Terry is making up for it I suppose. Either way the worst for the them the better.

 

[Bjerknes]

No man, I wish he'd gone to South Africa and cause as much media fuckery to England as possible. Meh. Then again Terry is making up for it I suppose. Either way the worst for the them the better.

Terry is good enough. If our supporters are smart they won't ever let that stuff go.

While England is dealing with injuries to morons like Beckham and sex scandals through degenerate thugs like Terry, the US team is rallying around Charlie Davies who is close to recovery and training with the full Sochaux side.

Who is the real class here? Not England, that's for sure.