[FML] Serie A 2009/2010 (45 Viewers)

[Alen]

So how the ref wanted to stop Inter from winning by denying a clear penalty for Milan?

By not seeing the handball?

And i'd never give a penalty for that. It wasn't a shot nor was the ball in Milan's possession. Maicon had the ball and was clumsy enough to shoot into his own hand. If it didn't hit Maicon's hand, Maicon was gonna head it out.

I doubt the ref saw it, but if he did then he made a great decision not to give a penalty there.

 

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[king Ale]

My point is that IF he wanted to stop Inter from winning, he would have easily given a penalty kick for that incident to Milan. I already said that the ref's decisions were spot on.

 

[Red]

I thought the ref got the big decisions right.

My only complaint would be that he was inconsistent about what tackles were getting yellow cards, but that wasn't in any way biased.

 

[Alen]

In any case, by conceding 3 penalties and 2 red cards in the last 2 matches, when the scudetto fight was in question, it's gonna be pretty hard to claim (what many still do) that the refs are helping Inter.

 

[king Ale]

The refs are alright this season.

 

[Red]

The refs are alright this season.

They've been pro-Milan a lot.

 

[Alen]

My point is that IF he wanted to stop Inter from winning, he would have easily given a penalty kick for that incident to Milan. I already said that the ref's decisions were spot on.

But what if he didn't even see that incident?
Even if he wanted Milan to win, if he gave that penalty while not seeing the incident and if it was later proven that there wasn't a handball, he was probably going to referee serie C matches for 2 years. He gave a direct red for a sarcastic clap only few minutes before that handball incident.

It was 35th minute and he already did enough to give Milan a huge advantage.

 

[Alen]

They've been pro-Milan a lot.

Hmm, they sure are but I have a feeling it has more to do with Milan being the team in position to make the league interesting than it is about Milan being Milan.

The league lost lots of its charm and with Inter getting away with the scudetto so early the league is becoming more and more boring. I might easily be wrong, but even if Juve were in Milan's position I think we'd have been getting a lots of dubious calls in our favor.
After tonight's derby I doubt that we'll see so many penalties and red cards in Milan's favor as we've been seeing in the last month and a half.

 

[king Ale]

But what if he didn't even see that incident?
Even if he wanted Milan to win, if he gave that penalty while not seeing the incident and if it was later proven that there wasn't a handball, he was probably going to referee serie C matches for 2 years. He gave a direct red for a sarcastic clap only few minutes before that handball incident.

It was 35th minute and he already did enough to give Milan a huge advantage.

You never know what Sneijder might have said to the ref. The ref is the best one to make a decision over that.

Has any of the league' refs demoted to whistle the serie C matches after Calciopoli?

 

[Alen]

5 penalties for Milan and 3 red cards for the teams that played against them ONLY on the last 4 matches

 

[king Ale]

Most of which were correct decisions.

 

[Red]

Hmm, they sure are but I have a feeling it has more to do with Milan being the team in position to make the league interesting than it is about Milan being Milan.

The league lost lots of its charm and with Inter getting away with the scudetto so early the league is becoming more and more boring. I might easily be wrong, but even if Juve were in Milan's position I think we'd have been getting a lots of dubious calls in our favor.
After tonight's derby I doubt that we'll see so many penalties and red cards in Milan's favor as we've been seeing in the last month and a half.

That is entirely possible.

 

[K.O.]

You never know what Sneijder might have said to the ref. The ref is the best one to make a decision over that.

The replays showed him clapping while saying "Bravo" to the referee.

 

[Alen]

Most of which were correct decisions.

The first two penalties against Genoa and possibly Sneijder's red card were everything but correct decisions.

 

[king Ale]

Yes, in your opinion.

Oh and what about those refs who were demoted to C matches?

 

[Alen]

Yes, in your opinion.

Oh and what about those refs who were demoted to C matches?

I could have said serie Z.....what I wanted to say that there might have been consequences for the ref in the future.


Oh, and if Inter won 5 penalties and 3 reds for the opponents (rightfully or not) on their last 4 matches, if Milan conceded 3 penalties and 2 red cards on the last 2 matches (rightfully or not) most of you would have moaned like there is no tomorrow, including you Hoori, so lets stop being so biased.

 

[king Ale]

I could have said serie Z.....what I wanted to say that there might have been consequences for the ref in the future.

The ref can easily see how the other refs who kindly gifted Inter a Scudetto a few season ago never got demoted to C or Z so he would have given a penalty to Milan if he really wanted to help Milan win this one. I honestly can't see someone (other than a retard like Mou) claiming that the ref wanted to keep Inter from winning the derby, do you know why? Because if a ref plans to turn a match in favor of one specific team, even the best teams can't come out of that game with a 2-0 win.

Oh, and if Inter won 5 penalties and 3 reds for the opponents (rightfully or not) on their last 4 matches, if Milan conceded 3 penalties and 2 red cards on the last 2 matches (rightfully or not) most of you would have moaned like there is no tomorrow, including you Hoori, so lets stop being so biased.

You'd never know.

 

[swag]

I'm not much of an Italian I suppose. I just don't see a pro referee in the heat of the match moment injecting the current standings into his calls. Especially the reverse kind. Italians love this kind of conspiracy talk. I feel much of it is primarily backwards superstitious mumbo jumbo suitable for cornuto hand gestures. It reflects a culture that's been living with the Pope just a bit too long now.

 

[Cronios]

Didnt the circumstances that got us to serie B, changed that conception in your mind swag?
Not even a little bit?

 

[swag]

Didnt the circumstances that got us to serie B, changed that conception in your mind swag?
Not even a little bit?

Oh, there's no question ref manipulation has gone on in the past and could certainly do so again at any time. But to suggest that the refs are out against Inter on the de facto proof that Inter has too big a lead on the Scudetto race -- in the absence of any other evidence -- is like blaming the Haiti earthquake on a past deal with the devil to free them from French rule.

At least if someone suggested that refs were biased in favor of the big clubs, as they often do (the "psychology" argument), they have more circumstantial evidence (league finances, etc.) to stand on. The reverse is an even weaker argument.