[FML] Serie A 2009/2010 (31 Viewers)

[DelpieroForLife]

But if you put Chiellini on Maicon, and cover one hole, you still have Legro on Eto'o or Milito, and you create another hole, just as big.
Also, you still have that problem on your RB position.

I'm with DPFL on this.

I knew that

He was an ok LB and was young when he played there, 3 years passed over that time, and I am sure he is the better player and will be even better the next years.

Chiellini's ball control is average at best.
Chiellini is clumsy with the ball in his feet.
Chiellini's first touch is below average.
Chiellini can't dribble or take on defenders.
Chiellini's crossing is nothing special.

How is Chiellini a great LB is beyond me.

 

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[Delle Alpi]

Buy a fullback in the winter mercato?

What if we can't buy a world class fullback, and we have a chance to buy a super CB. Wouldn't you jump on the deal and let this CB partner canna and switch chiellini to LB? It's not like we are doing excellent at defense at the current moment. I would definitely would

 

[Red]

Ultimately, the central areas are more important than the wide ones, so I would always focus my strength in the centre of the pitch.

I would also fear that our CB pairing would look very slow without Chiellini in there.

 

[swag]

The challenge to any coach worth their salary is to try a few formulas out to see if they can find tactical improvements. Otherwise, we risk 4-4-2-ing it to the grave.

 

[Stephan]

It's not like the Chiellini-Canna partnership at CB has been wowing the NT either...

So? NT has many out of form players what make defense look even worse.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Chiellini is universal he can play any role you give him, we should try him as striker as well just to see how he does

We should not, actually.

 

[Stephan]

Otherwise, we risk 4-4-2-ing it to the grave.

We are playing 4-4-2 with Diego? How come?

 

[X Æ A-12]

Ultimately, the central areas are more important than the wide ones, so I would always focus my strength in the centre of the pitch.

I would also fear that our CB pairing would look very slow without Chiellini in there.

We should not, actually.

 

[swag]

We are playing 4-4-2 with Diego? How come?

Because the coach is doing his job, that's why we're not.

 

[Stephan]

Because the coach is doing his job, that's why we're not.

But you just said we risk 4-4-2-ing. :confused2

 

[Delle Alpi]

Or better yet, Swag. Then Eto simply owns Legro in the middle and scores.


"Oh sh-t, if Chiellini had been there, it would not have happened, stupid Ciro, putting a natural CD like Chiellini to wing, when we have 2 LBs in the club"

You are saying "If". It's not like we tried it and it failed miserably. If ciro tried it and our defense looked worse than now, I would be the first to admit I was 100% wrong for suggesting such thing. We won't be able to tell until we see it in action. Based on the ~30 min early this season, I thought it was excellent defensively

 

[DelpieroForLife]

BTW, Forza Ranieri.

 

[Red]

Our current system really isn't that different to a 4-4-2.

The main difference is that Ciro is allowing the wide players the freedom to move around instead of staying on the wings.

 

[Stephan]

You are saying "If". It's not like we tried it and it failed miserably. If ciro tried it and our defense looked worse than now, I would be the first to amit I was 100% wrong for suggesting such thing

But if Ciro does it in a normal way, you are not supposed to see this experiment in a competitive game but in a training match.

 

[abejaa]

Legro and Canna is not a good partnership, maybe next season if we have Kjaer or Ranocchia to partner Canna. I agree that Chiello would be great defensively on the left but the risk to our central defense is just to great

I hope next year Traitor is not with us!

 

[cimenk]

can ariaudio play any wingback position?

He played once or twice as LB in Italy u-21.. and he is done quite decent there, not exceptional.. He can be our emergency LB when we need to subs Grosso.

 

[Stephan]

Our current system really isn't that different to a 4-4-2.

The main difference is that Ciro is allowing the wide players the freedom to move around instead of staying on the wings.

Current? Currently we play 1 striker. I cant believe what i am reading here. If we would play 4-4-2 then Diego would be very wide, but his in the middle of the pitch.




Some people here have seemed to forget what 4-4-2 was, have you forgotten the Capello years?

 

[Delle Alpi]

But if Ciro does it in a normal way, you are not supposed to see this experiment in a competitive game but in a training match.

You need to see the the formation in the heat of the moment. If you told me 3 years ago that chiellini would be a great CB, I would have thought it's mad idea. None of us would have ever dreamed that chiellini would be one day that good of a CB. You need to try it in a match, otherwise Tiago looked perfect in training last season according to many players but failed to impress in many occasions

 

[swag]

But you just said we risk 4-4-2-ing. :confused2

Yes. My point being that if we don't make adjustments and try out new tactics, we risk the death-by-4-4-2 approach that this club has made famous in recent years where teams knew every match who was playing where and what formation we were coming at them with.

Are you new at this juventino thing or somethin'??

The fact that we are not doing it this season is evidence that different tactics can sometimes provide different learnings about what works with the team and what doesn't. If you don't even try them, you learn nothing and are left with the same exposed weaknesses and the predictable strengths -- often giving your opponents one less thing to think about.

 

[Stephan]

Yes. My point being that if we don't make adjustments and try out new tactics, we risk the death-by-4-4-2 approach that this club has made famous in recent years where teams knew every match who was playing where and what formation we were coming at them with.

Are you new at this juventino thing or somethin'??

The fact that we are not doing it this season is evidence that different tactics can sometimes provide different learnings about what works with the team and what doesn't.

I am sure putting Chiellini to LB will surprise and shock any opponent