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Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
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Then again you'd say Trezgol is better than DP. In fact, we can say DP is not world class because he doesn't score much from open play.



Take Rooney out of UTD. Do you really see owen & Berbatov bringing down defenses weekly?
Do I see Rooney breaking down defenses weekly? You rated Owen and Berbatov higher than our forward line? so do I need to answer that question? Then again its not like I watch them at all. There only based in my city.
 

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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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We should end this, I will never agree with you. Seems your a die hard United fan who watches them week in week out and whatever I say you clearly disregard. Rooney is not Uniteds most important player. Ask Manchester United fans who they think their most important player is and I bet 70% will say Fletcher.

I am actually a liverpool fan.
I hate UTD but i give credit where its due.
I do watch a lot of EPL and i have participated in EPL forums before. This is actually the first place that claims Rooney is not word class. You are putting players like forlan, Fabiano, Milito, Trezgol, Adebayor, Raul, Defoe, bent, C.Cole ahead of him. This is reaaaaaaaally unfair to him as all these strikers are way beneath his level.
Rooney's impact on any match is Huge whether he scores or not. All these players are invisible and useless unless they score. Rooney is way more useful even when he doesn't score.
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
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I am actually a liverpool fan.
I hate UTD but i give credit where its due.
I do watch a lot of EPL and i have participated in EPL forums before. This is actually the first place that claims Rooney is not word class. You are putting players like forlan, Fabiano, Milito, Trezgol, Adebayor, Raul, Defoe, bent, C.Cole ahead of him. This is reaaaaaaaally unfair to him as all these strikers are way beneath his level.
Rooney's impact on any match is Huge whether he scores or not. All these players are invisible and useless unless they score. Rooney is way more useful even when he doesn't score.
Defoe would be on the England team sheet before Rooney. We have a battling midfield why do we need a battler up front aswell? I would take all of them strikers baring C.Cole over Rooney anyday of the week. By the way the reference between Trez and DP how can one compare. Del Piero offers us more than Rooney does United. How as a Striker are they beneath him? they score more goals than him. That is what a forward is paid to do. Score goals. When Amauri went through his goaless streak everybody was pissed and why was that? he worked his socks off but oh wait was it because he was not scoring?
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,659
Do I see Rooney breaking down defenses weekly? You rated Owen and Berbatov higher than our forward line? so do I need to answer that question? Then again its not like I watch them at all. There only based in my city.

Their forward line is way more effective. And yes i rate berbatov as higher than IQ, Trezgol and especially Amauri(even welbeck is better than this shit of a player lol). His passing is great and his finishing is great. His weakness is hi ATTITUDE. His EFFORT is usually low. He scores & assists beautiful goals but he usually is ASLEEP unlike ROONEY who is all over the pitch.

Owen like Trez have great Positioning & Finishing. He is faster than Trez and they both mostly cannot do anything other than put the ball in the net.



Now Please defend the claim that our starting 11 are better than chelsea's
Give me one position other than Gigi that we are better at.
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
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Their forward line is way more effective. And yes i rate berbatov as higher than IQ, Trezgol and especially Amauri(even welbeck is better than this shit of a player lol). His passing is great and his finishing is great. His weakness is hi ATTITUDE. His EFFORT is usually low. He scores & assists beautiful goals but he usually is ASLEEP unlike ROONEY who is all over the pitch.

Owen like Trez have great Positioning & Finishing. He is faster than Trez and they both mostly cannot do anything other than put the ball in the net.



Now Please defend the claim that our starting 11 are better than chelsea's
Give me one position other than Gigi that we are better at.
I stop reading after you said Amauri is a shit player. Quite frankly you're an idiot and I would rather not have a discussion with someone who talks crap for one and completly has moronic views towards our players. Good night.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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especially Amauri(even welbeck is better than this shit of a player
Most folks will stop reading here.

No point in discussing things with individuals that have these opinions. Waste of time.

EDIT: Funny how this Snake defends Rooney, someone who isn't a great goal scorer, but then blasts Amauri as a shit player because he isn't a great finisher. JOKE.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,659
Defoe would be on the England team sheet before Rooney. We have a battling midfield why do we need a battler up front aswell? I would take all of them strikers baring C.Cole over Rooney anyday of the week. By the way the reference between Trez and DP how can one compare. Del Piero offers us more than Rooney does United. How as a Striker are they beneath him? they score more goals than him. That is what a forward is paid to do. Score goals. When Amauri went through his goaless streak everybody was pissed and why was that? he worked his socks off but oh wait was it because he was not scoring?
Defoe ahead of Rooney in England's squad... are you sure Capello would agree with you on that?

FFS rooney was the captain of England last match. If anyone in England's front line guarantees a first team spot its rooney.


Now Amauri's work is not productive, He is useless in every possible way. Rooney's work IS productive, He builds up play, his passing is great and presses the defense, he is constant menace, he retrieves the ball, creates chances, gets fouls. When Rooney goes on a 6 month diet i am sure UTD fans wouldn't be very happy but thats never going to happen.

DP scores less than Trezgol even though he takes free kicks and penalties but that doesn't make him a weaker player does it?
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
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Defoe ahead of Rooney in England's squad... are you sure Capello would agree with you on that?

FFS rooney was the captain of England last match. If anyone in England's front line guarantees a first team spot its rooney.


Now Amauri's work is not productive, He is useless in every possible way. Rooney's work IS productive, He builds up play, his passing is great and presses the defense, he is constant menace, he retrieves the ball, creates chances, gets fouls. When Rooney goes on a 6 month diet i am sure UTD fans wouldn't be very happy but thats never going to happen.

DP scores less than Trezgol even though he takes free kicks and penalties but that doesn't make him a weaker player does it?
As a fan I would rather a player who scores be up front for my National Team rather than a worker. Defoe>Rooney. I could not give a damm what Capello thinks. If Defoe is not in the starting eleven then Capello is an utter Joke.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,659
I stop reading after you said Amauri is a shit player. Quite frankly you're an idiot and I would rather not have a discussion with someone who talks crap for one and completly has moronic views towards our players. Good night.
What? now Amauri is gonna be better than Rooney?LOL and you say i have moronic views.
Check the Amauri thread. I listed 50 forwards better than Amauri.
If you want an attribute analysis of Amauri i gladly invite you to it. Just mention one thing Amauri can do other than score headers (which ironically is not very often).
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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There is nothing useless in a player who can hold up play, shield the ball away from a couple defenders, and drag defenders away with him. It's called being a target man, google it.
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
38,737
What? now Amauri is gonna be better than Rooney?LOL and you say i have moronic views.
Check the Amauri thread. I listed 50 forwards better than Amauri.
If you want an attribute analysis of Amauri i gladly invite you to it. Just mention one thing Amauri can do other than score headers (which ironically is not very often).
Where did I say Amauri is going to be better than Rooney?, why do I need to analyise your points. It's clear you know more about English Football and know more about my National Team than me. How could I win against such a football genius?


Btw

Defoe- 11 goals

Rooney- 7 goals

Justify my point?
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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I think his scoring is part of it. Not sure why folks would look over it, especially professional scouts and coaches.
Of course it is part of it, I never denied that. He was in excellent goal scoring form last season and it certainly helped but IMO Messi's quick dribbling and ball control have always been his most impressive characteristics.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,659
Most folks will stop reading here.

No point in discussing things with individuals that have these opinions. Waste of time.

EDIT: Funny how this Snake defends Rooney, someone who isn't a great goal scorer, but then blasts Amauri as a shit player because he isn't a great finisher. JOKE.
That could work both ways. Nick is blasting Rooney for not scoring a lot yet he is defending Amauri who never scores.

Taking Goals away(which rooney is by far better at), if you compare both players, Rooney is better in everything about the game.

PS: I blasted Amauri for his uselessness on the pitch more than his goal record. His goal record is shameful but what makes him a bad player is that he can't pass, he can't cross, he can't shoot, he can't dribble, he can't run except like a turtle, he causes no troubles to defenses except from set pieces (and even chiellini has become better at that), his vision is terrible, his link up play is terrible, his positioning is terrible. HE IS TERRIBLE IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.

get the opposites of the last paragraph and you'll have rooney.
 

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