FIFA officials arrested (5 Viewers)

[Zé Tahir]

Blatter getting reelected is good in a way, that way they can't tell us FIFA is clean now because Blatter is no longer there. FIFA shouldn't be allowed to sweep this mess under the carpet. Heads need to roll. I hope Platini sticks to his word and takes UEFA out.

 

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[Hust]

So it's official? He is reelected

 

[Völler]

So it's official? He is reelected

stupid murican. read post dont complain

EDIT: Yes, he is.

 

[Osman]

Yea
They don't mean shit in the football world yet their vote is as weighty as anybody else's. There should be a distribution coefficient.

Wtf does mean shit in football have to do with this? They are member states and the fairest system is equal representation for its members, one vote per member.

Its not a perfect system, has its flaws, but its the only one that makes sense. What system do you suggest? Every random western footie fan complains about the current system in the same way when these elections come up, but any of the possible alternatives would have been criticized more.For example if votes weren't one per country one vote it would likely have been set up so the old home countries (UK) and Europe would fully and solely dictate things. Or some other similar set-up, how long til things fall apart then after that would have been abused and shown to be unfair?

 

[Ocelot]

Wtf does mean shit in football have to do with this? They are member states and the fairest system is equal representation for its members, one vote per member.

Its not a perfect system, has its flaws, but its the only one that makes sense. What system do you suggest? Every random western footie fan complains about the current system in the same way when these elections come up, but any of the possible alternatives would have been criticized more.For example if votes weren't one per country one vote it would likely have been set up so the old home countries (UK) and Europe would fully and solely dictate things. Or some other similar set-up, how long til things fall apart then after that would have been abused and shown to be unfair?

One other possible system, which is theory would be much much fairer would be to base them on population, but in practice, that gives way too much power to India & China.

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[lgorTudor]

Malawi, Namibia and Guam have as many votes as Italy, Germany and Brazil.

Legit votin yo


@Ocelot
11homies

 

[Osman]

Yep, that system would be lolsy. Basically only western country that would have clout would be the americans, rest would be in extreme advantage for the "others" IgorTudor complains about. They fuck alot more then the west/Europe

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One other possible system, which is theory would be much much fairer would be to base them on population, but in practice, that gives way too much power to India & China.

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That playlist


I gotta find it hehe...


Btw, Ben Ali would be better how? Honest question.

 

[radekas]

Wtf does mean shit in football have to do with this? They are member states and the fairest system is equal representation for its members, one vote per member.

Its not a perfect system, has its flaws, but its the only one that makes sense. What system do you suggest? Every random western footie fan complains about the current system in the same way when these elections come up, but any of the possible alternatives would have been criticized more.For example if votes weren't one per country one vote it would likely have been set up so the old home countries (UK) and Europe would fully and solely dictate things. Or some other similar set-up, how long til things fall apart then after that would have been abused and shown to be unfair?

Europe and South America probably provide like 80% of football money so it only makes sense for them to dictate things.

Another idea is to set up vote power according to population, kind of like EU used to have the treaty of Nice system -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Nice. It's pretty ridiculous that vote of Samoa Islands is equal to vote of Italy, China or USA.

 

[Wings]

FIFA is a farce. The sooner they all go to jail the better. Blatter is a dictator & needs to be ousted. The sponsors should pull the plug. All organisations should boycott the World Cup.

 

[Osman]

Europe and South America probably provide like 80% of football money so it only makes sense for them to dictate things.

Another idea is to set up vote power according to population, kind of like EU used to have the treaty of Nice system -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Nice. It's pretty ridiculous that vote of Samoa Islands is equal to vote of Italy, China or USA.

Its not an ideal system, but any other they can think of is more likely to be unfair and abused IMO.

 

[Ocelot]

That playlist


I gotta find it hehe...


Btw, Ben Ali would be better how? Honest question.

It's from http://www.11freunde.de/ as lgorTudor said

Concerning your question, I feel the same. In a way it'd be even worse, as it would allow the same system to continue under a different, supposedly "clean" head...

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Its not an ideal system, but any other they can think of is more likely to be unfair and abused IMO.

Yeah, it sucks, but I can't come up with anything better tbh

 

[lgorTudor]

Voting needs to be based on FIFA ranking (in modified form). If countries have no business with WC participation they shouldn't be as decisive on it as five time world champions FFS

 

[radekas]

Its not an ideal system, but any other they can think of is more likely to be unfair and abused IMO.

I would rather see Europe and South America abuse football than Asia and Africa doing it.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

i think he's already in prison for smuggling heroin up his ass into the US.

he has already been released having done a couple of years

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Malawi, Namibia and Guam have as many votes as Italy, Germany and Brazil.

Legit votin yo


@Ocelot
11homies

and blatter went on to say how he wants oceana to have more power of say this guy...

 

[Osman]

I would rather see Europe and South America abuse football than Asia and Africa doing it.

Africa and asia arent abusing football, they are voting for someone that protects their interests, thats all. They get 4-5 spots in the world cup and thats all, football its still pretty much extremely and heavily run by the 1st world. And your country prolly voted for Blatter, as did most of EE, Russia, and some of the western european power houses Spain and France. How do you think he got 133 votes? Who do you think runs these big bussinesses that prop up Blatter and FIFA?



And the question was suggest a more fair system, your response to it is to advocate for even more corruption.

 

[radekas]

Africa and asia arent abusing football, they are voting for someone that protects their interests, thats all. They get 4-5 spots in the world cup and thats all, football its still pretty much extremely and heavily run by the 1st world. And your country prolly voted for Blatter, as did most of EE, Russia, and some of the western european power houses Spain and France. How do you think he got 133 votes? Who do you think runs these big bussinesses that prop up Blatter and FIFA?



And the question was suggest a more fair system, your response to it is to advocate for even more corruption.

Wow way to place Poland in a block with Russia .

Poland officially voted for Ali.

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Also Ali got 70+ votes. UEFA has 54 members. Why do you assume some UEFA countries voted for Blatter?

 

[Osman]

They dont release the votes for them officially (yet) but read some Uefa members did, in particular besides Russia/EE countries, Spain for sure apparently, and perhaps France.



Even bigger question, why is Ali a viable candidate? Blatter is a disastrous joke, but whats the change with Ali?

 

[radekas]

France voting against Platini would be pretty extreme civil war.

Anyway this system will be corrupted either way. I would just rather see the power in hands of actual football countries instead of a 100+ countries with no football history or relevance.

I don't know if Ali is any better (probably not much). It's just about cutting the head of the dragon.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Thing is I don't really know what ali's manifesto was. He was just the alternative to blatter that's all but did he really have any policies? or how he would help rebuild the fifa brand? not that i ever recall reading.

 

[radekas]

I don't think the FIFA brand can even be rebuilt.