Fernando Llorente (40 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

Why wouldnt it ?

Llorente playing a deep targetman, with alot of room for vidal and marchisio to make forward runs in. Higuain eighter doing technical link up's or exchange passes, but mostly moving into the space around Llorente.

Llorente is excellent at beeing a "weight" on the defence, drawing defenders on to him, and succesfully keeping hold of the ball, having the technique to make combinations.
Higuain has excellent off the ball movement, has a pretty quick acceleration, is technically very good, and has showed with ronaldo he's prety damn good at flick ons, quick exchange passes, or 1-2's.


I know, this needs to make some work of the coach to work, as in movement routes, passing routes, "triangles and squares", but with one target man and alot of strong players with good technical ability moving around, this will work.

lazio was pretty succesfull at it in the early 2000's

 

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[Lion]

so in order for it to work, marchisio has to actually show up?

well i guess we are up for another disappointing season

 

[Zacheryah]

Imo, we should start working into replacing pirlo with pogba. Like this we should have wingbacks pushing up, with one of 3 cm's to hold, and 2 other to maraude in the space between the midfield and Llorente.

Meaning marchisio can be alot more offensive minded.

Considering a good Llorente is goddamn hard to get off the ball, there is so much movement possible.
Higuain in the channels around him, cheesio and vidal towards him.

This will improve exponentially, once pogba gets better at those long passes over the defence, or Llorente flicking on to Higuain.

Vucinic and giovinco werent very good at it, lets be honest. Higuain was excellent at it with ronaldo (giving and receiving the flick on) and Llorente is good at it aswel.

so much unpredictable movement. It will be better then the 4-3-3 was.

 

[Linebreak]

Question - is he a hard worker off the ball?

 

[Red]

He's no Cavani, but he's not lazy.

 

[Linebreak]

He's no Cavani, but he's not lazy.

Don't want - return to sender.

But seriously, there's only one Cavani when it comes to work rate - he plays keeper, CB, midfielder and goal scorer all in the same movement.

So he's got a better off the ball workrate then all of our current attackers?

 

[Ahmed]

better than Mirko but less than Quag Matri.

 

[Red]

Don't want - return to sender.

But seriously, there's only one Cavani when it comes to work rate - he plays keeper, CB, midfielder and goal scorer all in the same movement.

So he's got a better off the ball workrate then all of our current attackers?

He's not going to work as hard as Matri, but he'll work more intelligently, which should more than make up for him covering a bit less ground.

 

[Zacheryah]

Is there any forward that has a higher workrate then cavani :tongue:

 

[Red]

Former Aberdeen striker Darren Mackie had an awesome workrate, among other things.

 

[Zacheryah]

He's not going to work as hard as Matri, but he'll work more intelligently, which should more than make up for him covering a bit less ground.

I recon Higuain-Llorente would be a quite intelligent duo up front.

Not quite wasting all that energy like our attackers currently do defensively, due to much better reading of the game. Bit like marchisio.

And offensively, you'll have Llorente trying to present himself to receive the pass in good positions, where you have Higuain eighter asking to receive it in his foot, or moving into channels around Llorente to receive the flick on/trough ball/ over the defence lobbed pass.

I think both will suit the italian game very well for those reasons.

And having unpredictable movement in europe, combined with good and excellent allrounded (header,shot,volley,lob) finishing, is bliss for a good european campaign

 

[Red]

Actually, quite a few forwards have Cavani-esque workrate, but they do it differently.

Rather than chasing back like Cavani does, they make thankless runs in behind a defence and into the channels for balls (or the possibility of a ball) hoofed forward.

Cavani doesn't have to do much of that sort of thankless running because Napoli don't play like that.

 

[Klovn]

better than Mirko but less than Quag Matri.

You mean his workrate?

 

[Red]

I recon Higuain-Llorente would be a quite intelligent duo up front.

Not quite wasting all that energy like our attackers currently do defensively, due to much better reading of the game. Bit like marchisio.

And offensively, you'll have Llorente trying to present himself to receive the pass in good positions, where you have Higuain eighter asking to receive it in his foot, or moving into channels around Llorente to receive the flick on/trough ball/ over the defence lobbed pass.

I think both will suit the italian game very well for those reasons.

And having unpredictable movement in europe, combined with good and excellent allrounded (header,shot,volley,lob) finishing, is bliss for a good european campaign

As long as the crossing from Juve is good, it can work fine in most games.

If the crossing is poor, it could force Juve into playing through the middle more and that could show up the lack of creativity in that pair.

I'd still be concerned about the pairing in games where Juve aren't going to dominate and are going to have to look to play on the break a bit more than they do normally, unless you think Juve's ball retention with that pair will be so brilliant that they will be able to keep the ball and build the play up at their own pace against everyone.

Other that Higuain not being quite as mobile as would be traditional, it'd be quite close to a classic British front two: the target man and the number nine.

 

[Trequartista]

Is there any forward that has a higher workrate then cavani :tongue:

Mandzukic.

 

[Ahmed]

You mean his workrate?

yes, are you facing some confusion?

 

[Salvatore]

Is there any forward that has a higher workrate then cavani :tongue:

 

[Zacheryah]

His off the ball movement and excellent acceleration would make him alot more mobile as you give him credit for.

I do think they both would work best with a trequartista behind them.

i'm not to worried about the big games cause yess, that ball retention. Beeing able to save energy and clip passing routes more intelligently, pays off big time in europe.

It would enable us to press alot more efficiently against teams that shouldnt be allowed to build up the play from behind.
For example barcelona. Forcing the long pass would be so valubale

 

[Linebreak]

Former Aberdeen striker Darren Mackie had an awesome workrate, among other things.

Bro - Aberdeen...

 

[Zacheryah]

Mandzukic.

He's very good, but no cavani. And i dont like cavani