Fernando Llorente - ST - Athletic Bilbao (40 Viewers)

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Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Athletic Club will clearly cut off their nose to spite their face, that's just how they do it.

The only way I could see it happening is if Llorente becomes a real pain in the ass for them.
So, Llorente just needs to voice himself more. :)

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Because they doesn't have a good striker backup.
They could get one for what they could make from us.
 

Jasi

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Aug 25, 2012
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Because they doesn't have a good striker backup.
We need some replacement for Aduriz who now adays is the best spanish scorer in La Liga. Aduriz is much better than Llorente :p but we don't have any replacement for him, so we need this Llorente guy in case Aduriz gets injured or some shit happens. It seems Urrutia prefers having this replacement than 5 mil. euros.


:D

I mean, if I was a club that risked losing a player for free or making at least 7-8m, why not just sell him?

They aren't even going to use him anyways...sounds like he is being held hostage.
Copy&paste from one of my previous posts:

I'll try to explain this

We have our self iposed limitations. It's hard to build a team in those conditions.
As I said Athletic is a club. There's no economic interest behind him so as an sport club he needs to find ways to be competitive

The only way to increase competitivity is being able to keep good players. to achive this Athletic just can offer:
- relatively better plays (we pay "bad" as "average" and "average" as "good".. but we just can't pay "excelent")
- Longer contracts
- Integration and identification with the club, the province and the Basque Country
no big weapons for this battle european football is

Well what Urrutia is trying to avoid is big european clubs making offers for Athletic better and younger players. Some of those clubes them contact directly with the player with quite big offers. the player them can fall into temptation and try to force the situation for leaving the club. It happened with Martinez. The player was trying to make the club let him go for 20 mil, Bayern ended up paying 40.
So Urrutia wants that every club that is trying to sign an Athletic player will have to face the buy-out clause or wait until the contract expires. Take the example of Muniain. He's 20. There's some big names interested in signing him, they know now that they will have to pay 45 mil. or wait 3 more season until he finished his contract. there's no going to player and "do this", "do that", "we'll be paying 25".... no pressure for the player, he stays focus and he won't be leaving soon. If someone wanst Muniain they should go to La Liga with 45 mil euros. There's no short cut.

I hope I made myself clear. Hard for me to explain it in English. It's basically a protction policy. And the only way this policy acts as a protection is taking it to the limit. So no negotiations for Llorente.

As I said Athletic over pays those players but we cant pay "excelent" or top players; Llorente was offered 4.5 five years contract. To be true I think he'll have hard time finding out some one that is willing to pay him that amount. I think Falcao is getting 4.5 ang Higuain 4... As i said I think he's very good but not "excelent" and he wanted to get the same as the top guys. That's why the idea of see him go doesn't sound that bad to me... I didn't like the idea of him alone geting Athletic's 10% budget.

Bare in mind we hardly can use the money to improve the team, that we got a bunch of quite good young players (Muniain, Herrera, Susaeta, DeMarcos...) that I think they could be playing real big in a couple of years.

As you said from a business point of view this is quite stupid. But Athletic it's not a bank or an insurance company. As long as we can our main interest is improve the team.
 

Klovn

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Jul 28, 2011
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They could get one for what they could make from us.
Honey, They have to be Basque to play for the club.

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We need some replacement for Aduriz who now adays is the best spanish scorer in La Liga. Aduriz is much better than Llorente :p but we don't have any replacement for him, so we need this Llorente guy in case Aduriz gets injured or some shit happens. It seems Urrutia prefers having this replacement than 5 mil. euros.
:agree:

Though i don't want to comment on who is better Aduriz or Llorente.
 

Lapa

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Sep 29, 2008
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Never played Zelda?
Link is pretty gay. But I remember that my friends were sooooo excited about Ocarina of Time back in the days.

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Llorente sounds better every day. Not the one I really want here, but at least he can be pretty dope and won't cost us a fortune.
 

Marty

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Jul 2, 2005
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Link is pretty gay. But I remember that my friends were sooooo excited about Ocarina of Time back in the days.

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Llorente sounds better every day. Not the one I really want here, but at least he can be pretty dope and won't cost us a fortune.
A bit more off topic: I thought Link was Zelda for years when I was a kid :D
 

Lapa

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Since they wont use him anyway, i dont understand why dont they sell him, for a profit now.
They are morons. Hopefully they will get relegated just for their stupidity.

A bit more off topic: I thought Link was Zelda for years when I was a kid :D
Me too.

Was listening to some radio station few days ago. There was some competition on and there was a question "What color is Zelda's hat". Almost called to them just to tell that Zelda is a princess and doesn't wear a fucking hat. :D

You're confusing him with Legolas (Orlando Bloom) from Lofr. Compared to him, Link is pure testosterone.
Are you serious? Legolas is dope. Haldir was doper though. :shifty:
 
Apr 29, 2006
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They are morons. Hopefully they will get relegated just for their stupidity.
I completely disagree. Athletic are taking the proper stance. We can't all be money whores in this world or the end will be very near.
What if Moratti got MAD 10 years ago and offered 100m to Del Piero? Remember Ronaldo the phenomen wanted Alex as his partner. From a neutral point of view its fantastic - a partnership made in heaven. How would our fans feel? Wait another 50 years for the next legend? That will be an option only for the younger here...
I would remember that I lived in the times of Del Piero, not in the times where Marotta made 5-15 millions more from a very smart deal... which he will probably loose the next season in another not-so-smart one anyway.
 

Lapa

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Sep 29, 2008
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I completely disagree. Athletic are taking the proper stance. We can't all be money whores in this world or the end will be very near.
What if Moratti got MAD 10 years ago and offered 100m to Del Piero? Remember Ronaldo the phenomen wanted Alex as his partner. From a neutral point of view its fantastic - a partnership made in heaven. How would our fans feel? Wait another 50 years for the next legend? That will be an option only for the younger here...
I would remember that I lived in the times of Del Piero, not in the times where Marotta made 5-15 millions more from a very smart deal... which he will probably loose the next season in another not-so-smart one anyway.
That really would've been a sight to see. Delis and Rolle playing together. :touched:

But I don't think that this is the same thing really. :D
 

Socrates

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Apr 2, 2012
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IMHO he's a stupid asshole ruining both his carreer and best Athletic's project in a while; but that has nothing to do with the fact he won't be leaving in January.

I've been saying it for the last months.

If Juve needs someone now, they will have to sign another player for the rest of the season
 
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That really would've been a sight to see. Delis and Rolle playing together. :touched:

But I don't think that this is the same thing really. :D
Yeah those twos together would have been something magnificent. Perhaps the expectations would have been far too great, but these players in their prime ... it just boggle the mind.
Not being the same thing - well maybe the difference is more in our bias than anything else. :D True Llorente would never be 1/10th of what Alex was, but considering the specific nature of Athletic B and the fact they are a smaller team in general - I would say all things level out. They won't have much use for our meager 5-10m and there is no chance in hell marotta is offering even a penny more. Besides once they let the cat out of the bag - it will get only worse. Now they might loose some cash and make one player unhappy, but the rest of the squad will know what to expect. And rightly so - most of them wouldn't have been given this chance had they not been basque or if the club didn't have this nationalistic policy. I have the same prejudice as you do (in the end we all care mostly about Juve), but I do respect their decisions and think our management should as well.
Things would have gone in a completely different direction imho have we not had the loyalty in our team after Calciopoli. We must never forget the thuram's in this world... When the going gets tough they tend to flee.
 

electricRoo

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Feb 27, 2011
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IMHO he's a stupid asshole ruining both his carreer and best Athletic's project in a while; but that has nothing to do with the fact he won't be leaving in January.

I've been saying it for the last months.

If Juve needs someone now, they will have to sign another player for the rest of the season
LOL, there's no Athetic "project", unless you consider avoiding relegation a project. It's a loser club with a loser mentality, that's why the players that are worthwhile and want to win something want to leave.

I would like to know why you consider leaving Athetic Bilbao ruining his career? Any skillful player will want his chance of winning silverware, how is staying at Athetic going to do anything for his career?
 
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