Federico Chiesa (44 Viewers)

Amer

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2005
11,366
I feel that Motta's interview just decreased his price by at least 10m
So true.

Motta is already full of himself and he hasn't achieved anything in his career. Said it yesterday and I will say it again: he's a pretentious average coach at this point.

He thinks of himself as new Guardiola and Mourinho. Those guys showed more humility even when they won championships.
 

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Apr 17, 2013
3,532
I don't know how many more years we'll have to suffer the consequences of the Paraticci and Allegri period.

I really don't understand this situation, the guy sacrificed several years of his career because of the djihad ball. A player like him should be an essential player in this new project that suits him with his experience, his technique, his determination to show his true level.
 

Juve$Life

New Member
Jun 21, 2016
43
i really don't understand you guys - the club supported him through the hard time, backed him up when he needed.
and now, after a few proposals declined by him you are mad at the club rather than chiesa.
if his demands was appropriate - he had the perfect opportunities to show it but yet again - he didn't deliver.
the lack of clubs willing to grab him at a great price is pretty telling.

as far as i'm concern - goodbye !!
 

Knowah

Pool's Closed Due to Aids
Jan 28, 2013
6,596
i really don't understand you guys - the club supported him through the hard time, backed him up when he needed.
and now, after a few proposals declined by him you are mad at the club rather than chiesa.
if his demands was appropriate - he had the perfect opportunities to show it but yet again - he didn't deliver.
the lack of clubs willing to grab him at a great price is pretty telling.

as far as i'm concern - goodbye !!
It's a lose/lose situation for the club.

- If we don't give him his demanded 10m wages we're being an awful run club. And how could Giuntoli do this!
- If we gave him his demanded 10m wages, after seeing what injuries have done to him and after his Euros performance, and he continues to that level and yet is one of our highest earners without the performances on the field matching those wages the club is stupid, how could they extend him for 10m wages? What was Giuntoli thinking!
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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If he doesn't want to renew on current wages, then let him go. But not to inter
I don't think that's what people have an issue with, but rather the approach. We kept waiting on rabiot and we kept waiting on chiesa. This decisiveness we are showing now we should have shown months ago.

Also there's a trend developing here as far as giuntoli is concerned. He had a rough relationship with allegri, he failed to get mckennie on board with the villa deal, he failed to get Soulé on his side, and he is failing with managing the chiesa situation. I feel as though his style is antagonizing way too many people.
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
I don't know how many more years we'll have to suffer the consequences of the Paraticci and Allegri period.

I really don't understand this situation, the guy sacrificed several years of his career because of the djihad ball. A player like him should be an essential player in this new project that suits him with his experience, his technique, his determination to show his true level.
You could argue he has been hold back this last season due to ‘jihadball’ tactics and incompatible formation but what about the rest? He has been injured more often than not, and struggled a lot because of it in each of this last years where he’s been a shadow of the Chiesa you are describing aside from some rare flashes, but we still kept faith in him that he will eventually recover, if anything it’s him that should be accepting our terms and be eager to stay to prove himself in our new project under a new manager, we are the ones that sticked to him when he was at his lowest and he is the one asking for a pay increase or is even willing to leave for free next year when he is fully aware the club is going through a rebuild and struggling with finances.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,057
I don't know how many more years we'll have to suffer the consequences of the Paraticci and Allegri period.

I really don't understand this situation, the guy sacrificed several years of his career because of the djihad ball. A player like him should be an essential player in this new project that suits him with his experience, his technique, his determination to show his true level.
If anything I'd argue chiesa does not suit Motta who demands tactical discipline, whilst chiesa plays off instinct. This is why nobody seemingly wants him.
 

j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
22,892
Why are people surprised? Didn't Giuntoli do the same to a player in Napoli and I am sure I read people praising him for that.

I for one am glad that we started to grow a backbone after many years.
 

Juve$Life

New Member
Jun 21, 2016
43
the best option for him would have been signing a bridge contract and in the coming year work his ass up and onced proved himself to be worthy - i good contract will follow with juventus or with other suitor.

seeing how it ended up for dybala he should have been more wiser.
ungrateful princess !!
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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If anything I'd argue chiesa does not suit Motta who demands tactical discipline, whilst chiesa plays off instinct. This is why nobody seemingly wants him.

This total bullshit and convenient hack job of a post. It's a pile on Chiesa, so there's this collective need to invent reasons to dismiss him further.



There's a difference of salary and there's a difference of reputation for him pre and post injuries.


Anything else like the above just reads like utter nonsense.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
If he doesn't want to renew on current wages, then let him go. But not to inter
even inter i am ok with if it's free transfer.

he's going to rot on the bench this season if he wants to wait out his contract.

so that will make it 4 seasons in a row he hasn't had a major superstar status when other players in their twenties are killing it.

he will be 27 turning 28 when he joins inter or other club. 4 years wasted means he will get low balled by every single club after him including inter because what stats does he have to back up his wages? no club will offer him what he wants when he doesn't have stats or superstar status and he had ACL injury.

it's the reason no club is after him now. 25m-30m is nothing for almost all clubs in all top leagues that play with wingers. so why aren't clubs after him? because no one will give him the wage he wants when he can't play a full game without getting tired.
 

Alex-444

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Sep 5, 2005
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the best option for him would have been signing a bridge contract and in the coming year work his ass up and onced proved himself to be worthy - i good contract will follow with juventus or with other suitor.

seeing how it ended up for dybala he should have been more wiser.
ungrateful princess !!
It's just that the euros turned the boy's head and he forgot that Juve took care of him and waited for him after the injury

Of course he will go for the money
He is not a buffon, there is no greatness in him
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
he thinks inter will offer him 6+m per year?

inter of all clubs? inter who is struggling financially?

he thinks inter will offer him that much money after 4 seasons of shit football he played where he can't play an entire match?

his dad needs to give him a reality check
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,898
...Also there's a trend developing here as far as giuntoli is concerned. He had a rough relationship with allegri, he failed to get mckennie on board with the villa deal, he failed to get Soulé on his side, and he is failing with managing the chiesa situation. I feel as though his style is antagonizing way too many people.
that's a good point unfortunately. sample size is too small though. an overhaul was required, club has no money, if mckennie wants 5m and we can only offer 2.5m then it's not only on the club if the player leaves for free. the allegri and chiesa situations look bad indeed. we'll see how he handles people on the long run

bremer, rugani or cambiaso extended on the club's terms lately, so it's not all bad though
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,057
This total bullshit and convenient hack job of a post. It's a pile on Chiesa, so there's this collective need to invent reasons to dismiss him further.



There's a difference of salary and there's a difference of reputation for him pre and post injuries.


Anything else like the above just reads like utter nonsense.
No seriously it can't be a coincidence that stories of Motta not keen on keeping Chiesa was already making the rounds before Motta was even officially appointed.
It can't be a coincidence that not a single big club wants Chiesa, even at a knock off price, these big clubs want players that fit into a disciplined tactical system look at the heat maps of Chiesa last season and how he's always drifting to the left when he's supposed to play a more supportive role to the striker, last season his form was attributed somewhat to his long recovery process, and this is coming from someone who likes Chiesa has his shirt etc... but ive always felt he thrived on basically having a free role and let him play on his own instincts.

Just to add I have mentioned this numerous times when stories of Motta wasn't so keen on keeping Chiesa, prior to Motta's arrival, and not just because it's a "hack job of a post" to make myself cope better with his imminent exit, this is simply me trying to make sense of Motta's thinking.

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he thinks inter will offer him 6+m per year?

inter of all clubs? inter who is struggling financially?

he thinks inter will offer him that much money after 4 seasons of shit football he played where he can't play an entire match?

his dad needs to give him a reality check
Watch inter play him at wing back. That'll be funny.

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the best option for him would have been signing a bridge contract and in the coming year work his ass up and onced proved himself to be worthy - i good contract will follow with juventus or with other suitor.

seeing how it ended up for dybala he should have been more wiser.
ungrateful princess !!
We tried that, chiesa wanted more money and we scoffed at it

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If only he had the instinct to make a decision.
He does, just the wrong ones
 
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