Federico Chiesa (110 Viewers)

Rockets

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Jul 26, 2022
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Calma Calma! Why the narrative of a star player in the squad not fitting a new coach's tactics start this early? Isn't the coach's job to get the best out of his players, esp. key players?

If Motta can't find a solution to maximizing the potential of the Chiesa-Dusan-Yildiz trio, I can't see much of a difference between him and Allegri.
 

Fab Fragment

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Dec 22, 2018
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Calma Calma! Why the narrative of a star player in the squad not fitting a new coach's tactics start this early? Isn't the coach's job to get the best out of his players, esp. key players?

If Motta can't find a solution to maximizing the potential of the Chiesa-Dusan-Yildiz trio, I can't see much of a difference between him and Allegri.
Apparently, Yildiz is untouchable as per Motta. While I appreciate that, do we really want to put the burden of carrying this team on a kid?
 

Rockets

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Apparently, Yildiz is untouchable as per Motta. While I appreciate that, do we really want to put the burden of carrying this team on a kid?
It's not only about Yildiz. The burden is on everyone.

Dusan has to show that if provided with better service, he is a striker clinical enought to convert those chances amap instead of missing again and again like he did this year. Chiesa is under more pressure. If Motta puts him back to his natrual position, he has to prove that he's still the same player before the injury. Maybe less explovise, but creative, unpredictable and lethal as usaul around the box. There's no more excuses of jihadball now.

Yildiz is not as stressed or eager to prove himself as Dusan or Chiesa is imo. He's not numero uno in the team. His talent and potential are clear to everyone but he is still raw. He needs time and any decent coach would give him time because he's simply the 3rd best option (maybe tied with Soule if we keep both) on the frontline. Since Motta plays a three men offense, I assume he'll have more consistent playing time and all he has to do is learn by experience, make real progress. Goals and assists will come.
 

TheLaz

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Oct 6, 2011
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It's not only about Yildiz. The burden is on everyone.

Dusan has to show that if provided with better service, he is a striker clinical enought to convert those chances amap instead of missing again and again like he did this year. Chiesa is under more pressure. If Motta puts him back to his natrual position, he has to prove that he's still the same player before the injury. Maybe less explovise, but creative, unpredictable and lethal as usaul around the box. There's no more excuses of jihadball now.

Yildiz is not as stressed or eager to prove himself as Dusan or Chiesa is imo. He's not numero uno in the team. His talent and potential are clear to everyone but he is still raw. He needs time and any decent coach would give him time because he's simply the 3rd best option (maybe tied with Soule if we keep both) on the frontline. Since Motta plays a three men offense, I assume he'll have more consistent playing time and all he has to do is learn by experience, make real progress. Goals and assists will come.
Chiesa has already proven that he is back in form post injury.
What makes you think Vlahovic will have a higher goal conversion in Mottas system? A system that has the third least amount of crosses in all of Serie A this season..
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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...Dusan has to show that if provided with better service, he is a striker clinical enought to convert those chances amap instead of missing again and again like he did this year...
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it's not about the service, the quantity or the quality of his chances, it's what we've been repeating for a while: he should be more clinical, period. he had all the chances to finish the season with 20+ non penalty goals
 
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Chiesa has already proven that he is back in form post injury.
What makes you think Vlahovic will have a higher goal conversion in Mottas system? A system that has the third least amount of crosses in all of Serie A this season..
Yeah they didn't need as many crosses as Fraud's JJ because they actually knew how to bring/pass the ball forward, rather then pass it back/on the side and hope that someone will cross it near Vlahović or that Chiesa will make some crazy run to opponent's side.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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If rumor true, I think he envies Vlahovic.
and he's right. we have two players who can at least semi regularly decide a match, they both deserve top wages within the squad

vlahovic's 12m from next season is insanity though. no one will pay anywhere near that to chiesa. if liverpool or bayern or some other club goes crazy for him, then good for him

btw i'd certainly give him rabiot's wages with a 2-year extension, but it's just me
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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he doesnt deserve more than 5m net, if he wants more, fuck him and cash on him
But somehow the Benign Baguette French Faggot deserves 7+ million for staying fit, jogging on the pitch, and showing up once every 7-8 games.

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But yeah, let's sell one of the very few players on our roster who can actually make a difference, so we can replace him with a Britbong Rapist or the midget from Napoli, Rusty Doris.
 

Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
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well, we also once kicked out a player who wanted a big salary, but had constant injuries problems. Im not saying its the same with Chiesa, but:
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Dybala:
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Dybala was free, maybe we are calculating the money loss here? who knows...
 

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Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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But somehow the Benign Baguette French Faggot deserves 7+ million for staying fit, jogging on the pitch, and showing up once every 7-8 games.

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But yeah, let's sell one of the very few players on our roster who can actually make a difference, so we can replace him with a Britbong Rapist or the midget from Napoli, Rusty Doris.
Gatti has scored more winners than Chiesa this past season.. Jus' sayin:gatti:
 

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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chiesa is not even a good player. take the money and run.

why are people so delusional that he is fine post injury when he struggles to stay fit 2 whole years after his injury.
 

icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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and he's right. we have two players who can at least semi regularly decide a match, they both deserve top wages within the squad

vlahovic's 12m from next season is insanity though. no one will pay anywhere near that to chiesa. if liverpool or bayern or some other club goes crazy for him, then good for him

btw i'd certainly give him rabiot's wages with a 2-year extension, but it's just me
Dusan’s wages are as outrageous as De Ligt’s. We’ll be stuck with it or we’ll have to listen to offers that aren’t amazing because very few clubs will match that salary. That said Dusan even in a shit season has showed up multiple times in a way Chiesa has not. You can put a lot of the blame on coaching, but big money players should be difference makers regardless of circumstances. His numbers are nowhere as prolific as they should be for what was promised. His best season had similar output as Rabiot’s best season and he plays much further ahead and takes makes many more attempts. I hope he stays because I want to see what he does with a different coach, but I can see why the club thinks differently. Especially when we have to balance the books and all that. Chiesa would make a meaningful dent in that.
 

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