We shouldn't give him the #10
He's definitely not worth it, at least not yet anyway.
He's definitely not worth it, at least not yet anyway.
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Pirlo: Too old.
Barzagli: Cheap but never that good.
Bonucci: Should have gotten Ranocchia.
Krasic: Will be a great winger.
Alves: Barca reject and too old/slow.
Evra: Too old and slow. Beyond his prime.
Padoin: Waste of money for a utility player.
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The amount of times I heard arguments about players that were proven wrong this list could go on for ages. Everyone here is guilty of it.
Leave the player judgement to the people that get paid to do it for the club. Pretty sure they know more said player(s) than anyone here.
Barzagli: Cheap but never that good.
Bonucci: Should have gotten Ranocchia.
Krasic: Will be a great winger.
Alves: Barca reject and too old/slow.
Evra: Too old and slow. Beyond his prime.
Padoin: Waste of money for a utility player.
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The amount of times I heard arguments about players that were proven wrong this list could go on for ages. Everyone here is guilty of it.
Leave the player judgement to the people that get paid to do it for the club. Pretty sure they know more said player(s) than anyone here.
People talk in absolutes here. You have been around long enough I think to know that. It's one thing to talk about strengths and weaknesses. It's another to know with absolute certainty that players won't be worth their price or hype or whatever metric people want to use. Like I said, we are all guilty of it.
If we buy Bernardeschi for 40m its because the club thinks the player is not only worth it but will make that money back. With the way money gets thrown around these days by the big clubs, 40m is not that much money for a talented youngster. At least not for this club anymore.
If we buy Bernardeschi for 40m its because the club thinks the player is not only worth it but will make that money back. With the way money gets thrown around these days by the big clubs, 40m is not that much money for a talented youngster. At least not for this club anymore.
What is even the point of saying that? It's obviously true for every player bought by every club ever. And what if we don't buy Bernardeschi and the rumors were false? Doesn't that mean that Marotta and Paratici think that he's not worth it or is not good enough for Juve and you were just sucking dick for the wrong reason?
If we don't buy him for whatever price its because the board didn't want him. It should be a fair assessment to trust them at this point regardless of who and how much. No?
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And no, its not true with every club. Look at what Inter or Milan pay for players who don't perform. Their judgement in players is ridiculous compared to marotta & paratici. Their track record with this club is pretty fucking good.
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And no, its not true with every club. Look at what Inter or Milan pay for players who don't perform. Their judgement in players is ridiculous compared to marotta & paratici. Their track record with this club is pretty fucking good.
The point of the Transfer section is to discuss potential targets. It's for people who actually have their own opinion. Your opinion seems to be "if we buy him he is good, if we don't buy him he is no good. if we spend 50m he is worth it, if we refuse to spend 20m he's not worth." In that case you shouldn't be posting here, just go to the Marotta thread and keep rimming him there.
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So you think they knew those players would fail even before they bought them?
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So you think they knew those players would fail even before they bought them?
It's one thing to discuss potential targets. It's another to claim to know more than our board about players when they probably have scouts watching them for an entire season. All one needs to do is look at our finalized transfers over the past 6 years to see people's reactions. People know something before it even happens.
Probably not. But they are also trying to spend their way back into success instead of being business smart which is another reason to "rim" our board because of our shrewd policy of spending has given us the opportunity to now look past that and buy when we see fit. We don't have to drop millions on players hoping they succeed. The system and culture is in place yet again for this club to help foster these talents to succeed. Most of the time it works, rarely does it not.
Probably not. But they are also trying to spend their way back into success instead of being business smart which is another reason to "rim" our board because of our shrewd policy of spending has given us the opportunity to now look past that and buy when we see fit. We don't have to drop millions on players hoping they succeed. The system and culture is in place yet again for this club to help foster these talents to succeed. Most of the time it works, rarely does it not.
Is it an unjustified bias though?
I mean, two CL finals appearances in the last 3 years, let alone what this club has done domestically since the board took over.
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Should they deserve unrequited bias? No. No one should.
But should they deserve at least the benefit of the doubt? Absolutely. Haven't the last 3 years alone shown that?
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And he also said that he would be looking for young players to build into champions. That has been his Modus Operandi for the last several years
I mean, two CL finals appearances in the last 3 years, let alone what this club has done domestically since the board took over.
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Should they deserve unrequited bias? No. No one should.
But should they deserve at least the benefit of the doubt? Absolutely. Haven't the last 3 years alone shown that?
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And he also said that he would be looking for young players to build into champions. That has been his Modus Operandi for the last several years
Yeah, and? Who has a better track record tho? People here guessing who will be good or not at Juve or the board?
You both missed the point. It has more to do with trusting the board than knowing with certainty that X player isn't worth Y amount or that said player isn't Juve material. The board has been pretty fucking good at proving just about all of us wrong for the better half of a decade now.
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I'd like to add one more thing: Milan & Inter are going to be spending their way back up the table this year and next year, they don't really have FFP rules to hold them back and their new owners seem to have deeply lined pockets which only suggests buying domestically for talents is only going to increase the costs which I'm sure our board is aware of. Thankfully we don't have to worry about that anymore because A.) We don't get into buying wars and B.) We have plan B, C, D lined up if a team wants to splurge on one of our targets. If they make it into one of those plans, it's because they are good enough to do the job that will be asked of them.
You both missed the point. It has more to do with trusting the board than knowing with certainty that X player isn't worth Y amount or that said player isn't Juve material. The board has been pretty fucking good at proving just about all of us wrong for the better half of a decade now.
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I'd like to add one more thing: Milan & Inter are going to be spending their way back up the table this year and next year, they don't really have FFP rules to hold them back and their new owners seem to have deeply lined pockets which only suggests buying domestically for talents is only going to increase the costs which I'm sure our board is aware of. Thankfully we don't have to worry about that anymore because A.) We don't get into buying wars and B.) We have plan B, C, D lined up if a team wants to splurge on one of our targets. If they make it into one of those plans, it's because they are good enough to do the job that will be asked of them.
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