FC Basel - Juventus (21 Viewers)

[KeNgO]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
Kengo you totally misunderstood my post. I was in complete agreement with you, I was just highlighting the fact that you picked on Di Vaio, which is unfair to him as he does a damn sight more than Trez.

Obviously tacchinardi is crucial to us as he is the ONLY player that we have that can hold the midfield. Repeat, ONLY. Without him we are nothing

Damn!!! there is something wrong with the world today!!

we both agree on the same point!

sorry my bad! but i got used to you disagreeing with me!

i just wasn't picking on Di Vaio! just said that coz someone said earlier in the forum that Di Vaio is injured we are screwed!!!

 

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[KeNgO]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
yeah, he was crap against Man U wasn't he? If Camo was crap, then what was Zambrotta in that game? super-out-of-this-worldly-shit! And Conte, he was shit! And Tudor, let me remember, oh yeah he was shit! What about Ferrara, and Montero, they were shit weren't they, and Gigi he wasn't exactly very good.

I know, lets drop them all!

do you know where we would be right now without Camo? Not even IN the Cl at all! We would have been knocked out of the first bloody group stage! One sub-par performance and he is being singled out for criticism! why? Is it because he was so good earlier? Perhaps he would have been better playing shit all the time like zambrotta, then nobody would bat an eyelid if he played poorly!!

:fero:

rant over!

its a shame how a player like camo would be talked about this way!!!

the game against manchester should not be talked about as the entire team of juventus sub performed! and yeah they all sucked with no exceptions!!!

even the reliable buffon had a stinker!

u can't drop a player like camo who has done soo much for the club since his arrival just for simply playing a couple of bad games!!!

and Tom! i agree with everything u said except the stuff u said about Zambo!!! he is not a bad player!

 

[JuveCampione]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
yeah, he was crap against Man U wasn't he? If Camo was crap, then what was Zambrotta in that game? super-out-of-this-worldly-shit! And Conte, he was shit! And Tudor, let me remember, oh yeah he was shit! What about Ferrara, and Montero, they were shit weren't they, and Gigi he wasn't exactly very good.

I know, lets drop them all!

do you know where we would be right now without Camo? Not even IN the Cl at all! We would have been knocked out of the first bloody group stage! One sub-par performance and he is being singled out for criticism! why? Is it because he was so good earlier? Perhaps he would have been better playing shit all the time like zambrotta, then nobody would bat an eyelid if he played poorly!!

I agree with you! (one of the very few times it happens)
Camo is not the one to talk trash about.

 

[Tom]

++ [ originally posted by KeNgO ] ++
i just wasn't picking on Di Vaio! just said that coz someone said earlier in the forum that Di Vaio is injured we are screwed!!!

OK fair enough..the same way i am not picking on Zambrotta, he is just an example, and of course he is also a right winger so he is comparable to Camo.

Oded, what do you mean one of the few times? we used to always agree didn't we?

Unlike Kengo, who has agreed with me twice ever! :groan:

 

[s0ftcore]

i wasn't talking thrash about camo. but while the others raised their game against depor *like zamby and buffon*... camo didn't perform.

and when zamby was on the right flank, he added more bite. camo didn't provide that bite. of course, zamby was shit against man utd, but i forgot to say nearly the whole team was shit... so let's talk about the deportivo game. surely you can't say zamby played badly. he did well as left back and see how fast he adapted from left back to right mid.

yeah camo was playing well earlier in the season, no doubt about that. so are you trying to say it's ONLY because of camo that juve are still in the CL?

 

[KeNgO]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++


OK fair enough..the same way i am not picking on Zambrotta, he is just an example, and of course he is also a right winger so he is comparable to Camo.

Oded, what do you mean one of the few times? we used to always agree didn't we?

Unlike Kengo, who has agreed with me twice ever! :groan:

I AGREE!

Happy?

 

[JuveCampione]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++

Oded, what do you mean one of the few times? we used to always agree didn't we?

well yes, except the fact that almost all the time I think the opposite of what you say

 

[JuveCampione]

++ [ originally posted by s0ftcore ] ++
see how fast he adapted from left back to right mid.

yeah camo was playing well earlier in the season, no doubt about that. so are you trying to say it's ONLY because of camo that juve are still in the CL?

not only. But camo did help a lot with his great assists against Feyenoord and his goal against Feyenoord.
He has a part, but not the only part of course.

 

[Tom]

++ [ originally posted by s0ftcore ] ++
yeah camo was playing well earlier in the season, no doubt about that. so are you trying to say it's ONLY because of camo that juve are still in the CL?

no, thats not at all what i'm saying read the post

the fact is Camo contributed an awful lot in our CL games so far, and this should not be forgotten by one sub par performance. Without his contributions we would be out IMO, but then the same goes for our other most important players like delpiero nedved tacchinardi. Camo should be regarded as an interal part of our team, and on the whole contributes a lot more than Zambrotta does. He is a better player, simply put.

 

[Tom]

++ [ originally posted by KeNgO ] ++
I AGREE!

Happy?

oded
well yes, except the fact that almost all the time I think the opposite of what you say

Really? i would never have guessed

 

[JuveCampione]

 

[s0ftcore]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++


no, thats not at all what i'm saying read the post

the fact is Camo contributed an awful lot in our CL games so far, and this should not be forgotten by one sub par performance. Without his contributions we would be out IMO, but then the same goes for our other most important players like delpiero nedved tacchinardi. Camo should be regarded as an interal part of our team, and on the whole contributes a lot more than Zambrotta does. He is a better player, simply put.

yes i agree camo has contributed, and he was given the opportunity because only zambrotta was injured. didn't zambrotta contribute last season? shouldn't he also be regarded as an internal part of Juve?

 

[Tom]

++ [ originally posted by s0ftcore ] ++
didn't zambrotta contribute last season? shouldn't he also be regarded as an internal part of Juve?

no, I don't think he should. He contributed all of one goal, and very few assists as far as I can remember. He is certainly not as effective and useful as Camo

nice avatar btw

 

[juvelover]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++


no, I don't think he should. He contributed all of one goal, and very few assists as far as I can remember. He is certainly not as effective and useful as Camo

nice avatar btw

i am not sure about this !! zamby is good, one of top players of the team

 

[s0ftcore]

haha yeah thanks

well whatever it is, the most impt thing is that we go to the q-finals

 

[denco]

Incredible is it not? Everyday I come on here and I read that juve is the best club in the world and now the same ppl r fretting over Juve losing 5-0 to Basel,when did the said basel beat anyone 5-0?They had the chance to have qualification in their hands against a weakened man u and they blew it.
No matter which side man u, real madrid, milan, barcelona,arsenal etc put out, they will never lose 5-0 to basel and you guys come on here and abuse Trapatoni and you are just as cautious

Let Juve go there and play without tension cos no matter what they shouldn't lose 5-0 and if they do then we should be deducted 10 points in seriea for being an embarrassment to italy

 

[Martin]

Juve won't lose 5-0 as long as we have Buffon.

 

[nina]

I don't think that we can lose 5-0 either, but to say that we cannot because we have Buffon is a bit ... :undecide: You can have the best keeper between the sticks, but if the defenders don't do their job the keepr won't/can't save you.

 

[Martin]

In theory, but Buffon is just so good (at least when he's on form, as he has been at Juve except for that first half of the first season) that he will never concede that many goals, almost regardless of how bad the defence is. The worst example woud have to be ManU. But that was THE worst performance all season, I'm assuming there will be no more of those. A world class goalkeeper playing with a shaky defence can be the difference of 2-3 goals. Hell, I've seen Schemeichel do that in his days, Buffon has too judging from match reports this year.

It's also the reason they won't fire Trap due to a heavy defeat...

 

[danielão]

Juve's players vs. Basel...

1 Gianluigi BUFFON
2 Ciro FERRARA
3 Alessio TACCHINARDI
4 Paolo MONTERO
5 Igor TUDOR
6 Salvatore FRESI
7 Gianluca PESSOTTO
9 Marcelo SALAS
10 Alessandro DEL PIERO
11 Pavel NEDVED
12 Antonio CHIMENTI
13 Mark IULIANO
14 Cristian ZENONI
15 Alessandro BIRINDELLI
16 Mauro CAMORANESI
17 David TREZEGUET
19 Gianluca ZAMBROTTA
21 Lilian THURAM
22 Landry BONNEFOI
23 Ruben OLIVERA
25 Marcelo ZALAYETA

Davids suspended, Di Vaio & Conte injured.