Fabio Quagliarella (25 Viewers)

[Buck Fuddy]

How many 90 minute games has he played to give you an idea of his overall level of play? Generally, you give someone 15 mins and he doesn't score, he's considered out of form. But 90 minutes, when he's at the pace of the game, he has that many more chances, he would perhaps convert one of them. Thats how players find form. Borriello has had more game time than Quag since he's been here and quite frankly, he's done nothing to warrant it.

Remember Gigi last year? A bunch of people wanted Storari to start ahead of him because of his dip in form. He is a different player this season because of continuity. If Quag has to be sold because he doesn't fit the formation or make room for a player that does, it's understandable. But to say that he's average or wasteful or his overall form is bothersome is just unfair because he hasn't had even one game that he's played start to finish. Oh wait he has. And he scored in that one.

By all means lets judge him as good or bad, but give him a fair yardstick before we do.

I think Quag's overall form is bothersome to say the least. Am I not allowed to have this opinion? And I will judge or rate players on what I see on the pitch.
But it's true, less minutes on the pitch is less time to impress. It is, of course, also less time to screw up

Besides, I've seen you criticizing Borriello as well. Why not "give him a fair yardstick".

 

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[baggio]

I think Quag's overall form is bothersome to say the least. Am I not allowed to have this opinion? And I will judge or rate players on what I see on the pitch.
But it's true, less minutes on the pitch is less time to impress. It is, of course, also less time to screw up

Besides, I've seen you criticizing Borriello as well. Why not "give him a fair yardstick".

Normally, when you have less time on the pitch, it's a lot easier to screw up and be remembered for it, because when you come in, you need to get used to the pace of the game. That takes time, also before growing into a game with your touch and movement. More so, this year when we are paying such a high tempo, high pressing game.

As for Borriello, I've never rated him. Quag is miles ahead of him and has a lot more skill on the ball, and in terms of his movement. What yardstick are you expecting for Borriello? He's had 3 or 4 starts since he joined us in Jan and done absolutely nothing with the time he's had on the pitch, besides dive and whine. He adds nothing to our game or tempo. I'm sure you'll agree, for the starts and the time hes had on the pitch, he should have at least ONE goal to show for it. If that isn't a fair yardstick, I don't know what is. Like I said, Quag has had only 2 or 3 starts all season. Off which, in one he came off un the 20th minute with a cheekbone injury and the only match he played out, he scored in.

Also, im not just saying this only related to Quag. Del Piero made a couple of appearances these last few months with 10-15 mins on the clock and people were of the opinion that he's not good enough anymore. We gave him close to an entire half and we saw that he's still the best striker we have. Have an opinion by all means. My point was only let's not jump the gun. We are doing the same thing with Matri. He's a better player than what we are crediting him for. Borriello is shit. Has always been.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

I do agree that Borriello has added nothing.
But I also think Quag has added nothing this season.

And both have also been pretty annoying to watch most of the time. I honestly see no place for either of them in this Juve.

 

[baggio]

Lol. Bro, Quag has to play to add something. Give him 3 games continuously and tell me he's added nothing. I'll agree with you. But if we've played more than 2700 minutes this season, and Quag has played 500 minutes of that and scored 2 goals, what more are you expecting him to add??? It's true for anybody. Look at Matri or Vucinic for instance. Matri was scoring when he had continuity. Now, he looks lost when the ball comes to him, ever since hes been benched for Borriello. Off the 3, Vucinic has played closest to the 2700 minutes and added only 5 goals. Would you say he's added nothing to the team? No you wouldn't. Because he contributes in our build up play, the only reason we can see that is because he gets a lot more time to do that. Can you imagine what Vuci's numbers would look like if he had only 500 minutes in the season? It took him 25 games to score 5 goals. This applies to Gigi, Matri, Alex, Quag and anybody who we know can play to potential. If we want to sell, then by all means sell. But do it for the right reasons.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Now I'm confused.
Numbers do matter, but at the same time they don't? Quag has to play 3 continous games to add something, but Borriello doesn't?

Let's just drop it anyway. It was foolish of me to give my opinion.

 

[Nzoric]

I like this Buck Fuddy guy.

 

[baggio]

Now I'm confused.
Numbers do matter, but at the same time they don't? Quag has to play 3 continous games to add something, but Borriello doesn't?

Let's just drop it anyway. It was foolish of me to give my opinion.

Ok. Let me try explaining this in short. Quag is coming off an injury laden season, and therefore needs some continuity. I am assuming you feel he's added nothing based on the numbers, which is a tangible way to measure a strikers contribution. Borriello is not part of this discussion because he's been given some continuity and even though he's come off an injury it wasn't as serious as Quags. And nor was he ever on the same level as a player. Don't know how you don't see that.

Please feel free to give you opinion. I'm not the last word and you are completely entitled to thinking this way. Was just trying to explain something from the point of view of somebody who has noticed a lot of fickleness towards our strikers specially, with every game. From Matri and Alex to Quag. Thats all. Cheers.

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I like this Buck Fuddy guy.

Stop sounding like a Fuck Buddy guy.

 

[Red]

Does Borriello not need continuity after being frozen out for the first half of the season at Roma due to not fitting their system?

Anyway, both are decent enough forwards for Genoa type teams, neither should be at Juve next season.

 

[Ahmed]

I like this Buck Fuddy guy.

you could be his Fuck Buddy.

 

[Klovn]

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Ok. Let me try explaining this in short. Quag is coming off an injury laden season, and therefore needs some continuity. I am assuming you feel he's added nothing based on the numbers, which is a tangible way to measure a strikers contribution. Borriello is not part of this discussion because he's been given some continuity and even though he's come off an injury it wasn't as serious as Quags. And nor was he ever on the same level as a player. Don't know how you don't see that.

Please feel free to give you opinion. I'm not the last word and you are completely entitled to thinking this way. Was just trying to explain something from the point of view of somebody who has noticed a lot of fickleness towards our strikers specially, with every game. From Matri and Alex to Quag. Thats all. Cheers.

It's all right, not like your opinion is worse or worth less than mine. I will judge players on what they bring to the table, not on what they may or may not under different circumstances. It would be an entirely different case if we were talking about a proven player of course, but Quag just isn't one of those.

I don't think Borriello has been given any sort of continuity either. If anything, he was thrown in the deep end immediately after his arrival, underperformed, was then relegated to the bench, started another game & then went back to the bench. Came on in some games, didn't set foot on the pitch in others.
As for your point that Borriello was never on the same level as Quag, that's just your opinion, most probably because you like Quag('s playing style) more than you like Borriello('s). You could argue that Borriello at Genoa was better than Quagliarella has ever been. Something I would agree with tbh.


Now, before someone gets the wrong idea, I am not a Borriello fan & I do not think he should play more often. Nor do i think we should sign him. Hell, I don't even prefer him over Quag.

I like this Buck Fuddy guy.

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You're the first member.

 

[JCK]

It would be interesting to start him with Matri and Vucinic against Naples Soccer

 

[Klin]

you could be his Fuck Buddy.

In his dreams.

 

[Ahmed]

It would be interesting to start him with Matri and Vucinic against Naples Soccer

should have tried it at least once this season, really.

 

[Fake Melo]

We did, against Udinese at home.

 

[Ahmed]

don't think so Hash - http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/01...ics-but-remain-an-all-round-attacking-threat/

 

[Nzoric]

you could be his Fuck Buddy.

Fragstealing baggio? Expected more of you, oh lord of trolls.

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You're the first member.

Im honored .

Klin: fu

 

[Ahmed]

what the fuck is fragstealing?

 

[Nzoric]

Never played counterstrike?

Fragsteal is when I'm killing someone, almost have them in the bag and some noob pops by and steals the frag. Frag being the kill.

baggio was the first to do the whole fuck buddy thing, so you fragstealed his joke and tried to make a funny.

 

[Ahmed]

ah right, Counterstrike.

didn't see his post.