Fabio Cannavaro (3 Viewers)

[The Curr]

Compared with Molinaro and Grygera?

They're rubbish too but I wasn't making a comparison to anyone at Juve.

 

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[Red]

No, there's no key about it at all. Do you understand what you just said?

Do not come here and tell me Canna is better than the other players around him. It's insane.

Tactically he is better.

When he is in a tactical system and league that suits him more (exposes him less), he will still be able to perform at a reasonable level.

 

[Alen]

Compared with Molinaro and Grygera?

If the question is Molinaro or Heinze, i will need time to answer that question.

 

[The Curr]

If the question is Molinaro or Heinze, i will need time to answer that question.

I would honestly choose Molinaro.

 

[Bjerknes]

Tactically he is better.

When he is in a tactical system and league that suits him more (exposes him less), he will still be able to perform at a reasonable level.

I still don't find this argument acceptable.

 

[Red]

I still don't find this argument acceptable.

Don't accept it then.

Time will tell who is right anyway.

 

[Enron]

They're rubbish too but I wasn't making a comparison to anyone at Juve.

You kind of have to when you consider he's going to be playing for Juve.

You can't just say "I know he'll be much better at Juve" without analyzing the set up.

 

[Enron]

If the question is Molinaro or Heinze, i will need time to answer that question.

They're equally useless in my book, though Heinze can play in the center if he has to. For whatever that's worth.:d

 

[Enron]

Tactically he is better.

When he is in a tactical system and league that suits him more (exposes him less), he will still be able to perform at a reasonable level.

Well with the crap Juve have on the left and right, will he really be exposed less? If Juve upgrade the rb then having Cannavaro makes sense. If not, I don't see how the situation is different.

 

[The Curr]

You kind of have to when you consider he's going to be playing for Juve.

I was talking about Pepe and Heinze.

You can't just say "I know he'll be much better at Juve" without analyzing the set up.

I didn't say he'll be much better at Juve.

 

[Red]

Well with the crap Juve have on the left and right, will he really be exposed less? If Juve upgrade the rb then having Cannavaro makes sense. If not, I don't see how the situation is different.

I agree.

I will be pissed off if Juve sign a free CB instead of a really good one and don't improve other parts of the defence.

 

[Enron]

I was talking about Pepe and Heinze.

Right.

 

[Bjerknes]

Don't accept it then.

Time will tell who is right anyway.

I don't accept it because Spanish teams also play with DM's whose job is to cover the defense. To an extent, that is what Diarra does as well.

Of course if you put five Sissoko's in front of Cannavaro he won't be exposed as much, but when you put a player in front of Cannavaro he'll still have to deal with the play himself.

That's why I call it nonsense, because it is. You have to JUDGE a defender by what he does WITHOUT help around him.

 

[Red]

That's why I call it nonsense, because it is. You have to JUDGE a defender by what he does WITHOUT help around him.

But you have to consider how he will fit in with a teams defensive unit.

 

[Bjerknes]

But you have to consider how he will fit in with a teams defensive unit.

Put me in with Ramos, Carvalho, Evra and Sissoko, as opposed to Grygera, Mellberg, Molinaro and Tiago, and I can assure I'd look much better.

Point?

 

[Red]

Put me in with Ramos, Carvalho, Evra and Sissoko, as opposed to Grygera, Mellberg, Molinaro and Tiago, and I can assure I'd look much better.

Point?

Yes.

Cannavaro, as bad as he looks at times at Real, will do better than our CBs, other than Chiellini, do in our system.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yes.

Cannavaro, as bad as he looks at times at Real, will do better than our CBs, other than Chiellini, do in our system.

Just because we have better security in midfield?

That's not a point, really. Any defender would do better in our system.

Sorry, not buying, Andrew.

 

[Red]

Just because we have better security in midfield?

That's not a point, really. Any defender would do better in our system.

Sorry, not buying, Andrew.

My point is not that any defender would do better in our system.

My point is that he will do better in our system than Legro or Mellberg do in our system and, therefore, he may be worth signing as a short term improvement to our defence.

 

[Bjerknes]

My point is not that any defender would do better in our system.

My point is that he will do better in our system than Legro or Mellberg do in our system and, therefore, he may be worth signing as a short term improvement to our defence.

His form, compared to Legro's form in Serie A, hasn't been any better.

Sure, he could be better than Legro, but we're wasting salary and time on a position we need to improve for the long run.

Even irrespective of how he does, we need to find a long-term player for this position.

 

[Mark]

wtf happened in here?