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Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



1. If the Israel-Palestine confilct has nothing to do with terrorism, please, tell us, what do you believe are the reasons for terrorism?

2. USA will not invade Iran. Iran have much bigger military capabilities than Iraq, inculding 12 million military capable men.
1. The Israeli-Palestine isn't the real Reason for Terror. It's not like what you think. There are Even Couples Israeli-Palestinian gettin married nowadays, their Relation is much better than before.

There are some apartments where they live together, one of My bestfriends Is Palestinian. and Btw why didn't the Terror thing Started 50years ago when Israeli's Started takin over Palestine? at that Time they Killed much more than what they did in the last 10years??

2. Sadam had 120.000 (Bodyguards) Just to Protect him incase of something, Believe it or not. And in Just 48hours they all disappeared. USA will invade Iran but not right now.

USA can't open a battle with several Countries, It's Step by Step. Remmber Hitler? He battled alot of countries at the same time and opened Fronts with everyone, then he Lost, Killing himself April 30, 1945 It's as simple as that.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Azzurri7 ] ++


1. The Israeli-Palestine isn't the real Reason for Terror. It's not like what you think. There are Even Couples Israeli-Palestinian gettin married nowadays, their Relation is much better than before.

There are some apartments where they live together, one of My bestfriends Is Palestinian. and Btw why didn't the Terror thing Started 50years ago when Israeli's Started takin over Palestine? at that Time they Killed much more than what they did in the last 10years??

2. Sadam had 120.000 (Bodyguards) Just to Protect him incase of something, Believe it or not. And in Just 48hours they all disappeared. USA will invade Iran but not right now.

USA can't open a battle with several Countries, It's Step by Step. Remmber Hitler? He battled alot of countries at the same time and opened Fronts with everyone, then he Lost, Killing himself April 30, 1945 It's as simple as that.

I'm not saying that the Palestine-Israel conflict is the sole rerason for terrorism, or at least terrorism commited by muslim terrorists, but it is one of the significants reasons. Some Palestinians and Israelis may get along on a personal baisis, but in general, on a diplomatic and political level things havent really chnaged.

And you can hardly compare 120.000 to 12 million. Iran is much better equiped than Iraq and has more soldiers, and is in general better organised. It has home developed short range and medium range missiles and much better weapons than Iraq and would be a too big of a bite for the US to chew. They would need to spread their forces too thin and would almost certanly suffer defeat. Besides, this is George Bush's last term, and I doubt the next president, especially if he/she is a democrat as I believe will happen, gets elected. There is no way Iran can be invaded during Bush's presidency.


BTW, about your last point, I completely agree, but the US will not withdraw from Iraq for a few more years, maybe even a decade, and they'll probably stay in Afghanistan for a few more years, and even on full strenght, I doubt they could successfully invade Iran.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by - vOnAm - ] ++


You sound so sure, like you KNOW everything (from where?), don't be arrogant man.
Do really know what goes on in the Isreali-Palestine conflict? You're not even trying to understand the problem. The purchases were not as easily done as u might think and I doubt it was even that clear or sold 50% of it. As I have read, the peasants themselves didn't know about the sales..very complicated situation which will always be hard for us who were not there to really understand.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/

And another more complicated assesment on what happend written by some jews (atleast that what it says).

www.cactus48.com/truth.html

I think the injustice of what happens in these conflicts have a large part to do with terrorism, and some people's lost hope for Justice. And when no one body is able to deliver Justice without prejudice and without self-interest, then I believe these people resort to their last and worst option, "Murder".

I'm very sure that Oil has some part to do with US' invasion. And if you regard Democracy so highly, why would you suport the US' invasion? As most of the world did not agree to it, thus democratically it should not have been allowed to happen.
I am not arrogant.

I don't really care what Sites or News Says, I've been in Palestine Couple of times and I guess that I know more than you. So, yes I am quite sure of what am saying, Yet it doesn't make me arrogant. Don't let people "Brain Wash your head", and Face the facts, Even If Palestine is an arab Country. Not defending Israeli though, They are both bastards(No offence) here. They Both Fvcked around In Lebanon 1975, They Both Killed alot of Lebanese, they were Fighting in a country that doesn't belong to them. So my whole point is that I really don't care about them both, I am just stating the facts. Son.

-Oil has nothing to do with the US' occupation there. Jeez. Even Iraqi's admit that they were giving Oil For Free to the US. I regard Democracy so highly because I know that the United States can BRING democracy to these people who Suffered years and years Under a Dectatorian man who killed Millions of Innocent people. Ofcoarse I don't rule the Petrol out, Infact I am sure that they are putting their hands on the Oil over there, But It's not the REASON they are there.

There's nothing For free in this world my Friend, Specially in these days, (Give and Take).
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
You are nothing but a stupid maroon Lebanese whose mother was begging to be ****ed by Israelis!!

How could you get in Israel if you are not an Israeli or one of Lahd's stupid army???

Don't talk about Palestinians, you stupid because you have no clue about them...
Palestinian fighters didn't start the war in Lebanon!!
It was the stupid maroons, you stupid...

and for the rest of users here,

Everything this idiot user called Azzurri7 says about Palestinians is faulse...
He is trying to make our image as bad as his mother's face!!!

There are no relationships between normal Palestinians and Israelis because the hatred isn't gone yet...and it will not go in the future because a group of arrogant jews were kicked out of Europe and occupied Palestine!!!

How sould any Palestinian forget that??
 

Azzurri7

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Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



I'm not saying that the Palestine-Israel conflict is the sole rerason for terrorism, or at least terrorism commited by muslim terrorists, but it is one of the significants reasons. Some Palestinians and Israelis may get along on a personal baisis, but in general, on a diplomatic and political level things havent really chnaged.

And you can hardly compare 120.000 to 12 million. Iran is much better equiped than Iraq and has more soldiers, and is in general better organised. It has home developed short range and medium range missiles and much better weapons than Iraq and would be a too big of a bite for the US to chew. They would need to spread their forces too thin and would almost certanly suffer defeat. Besides, this is George Bush's last term, and I doubt the next president, especially if he/she is a democrat as I believe will happen, gets elected. There is no way Iran can be invaded during Bush's presidency.


BTW, about your last point, I completely agree, but the US will not withdraw from Iraq for a few more years, maybe even a decade, and they'll probably stay in Afghanistan for a few more years, and even on full strenght, I doubt they could successfully invade Iran.
I agree, on Political level things are really bad over there.

I wasn't comparing the 120.000 to 12million, Hell, I can't compare them, But my point was Even these 120.000 who were Suppose to give their Everything to Protect their Boss, They Screwed him Up. I don't think Iranians aswell are happy to be Under (Ahmad Najad) another Dectatorian.

I agree on the Bold things.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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For someone who's been to the middle east you sure seem ignorant of historical facts. To equate the struggle of an occupied people to that of an occupier is not only unfair it goes beyond and begs the question underlying all ethical codes Why be "good". Which ties up auspiciously with the next question of the need we have of a religion and its ramifications. going back to the mid. east, Lebanon was a ticking bomb waiting to explode. Sure Israel invading to root out PLO triggered it, but the divisions in culture, religion, and POWER between the christians and muslims of the new state were far too immense to mend, you have France to thank for that. Oil has nothing to do with the war??? drop whatever you're smoking. America is a great country but here everything has a price and the price and cost of this war was OIL.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by Luciano_Moggi ] ++
You are nothing but a stupid maroon Lebanese whose mother was begging to be ****ed by Israelis!!

How could you get in Israel if you are not an Israeli or one of Lahd's stupid army???

Don't talk about Palestinians, you stupid because you have no clue about them...
Palestinian fighters didn't start the war in Lebanon!!
It was the stupid maroons, you stupid...

and for the rest of users here,

Everything this idiot user called Azzurri7 says about Palestinians is faulse...
He is trying to make our image as bad as his mother's face!!!

There are no relationships between normal Palestinians and Israelis because the hatred isn't gone yet...and it will not go in the future because a group of arrogant jews were kicked out of Europe and occupied Palestine!!!

How sould any Palestinian forget that??
I entered the Israeli-Palestine land because I hold the American Passport.

I know Palestinians more than your mama will ever know, kid. Atleast IF you call yourself Palestinian go ahead and change your PROFILE you cunt. It's written Italian:rolleyes: What is it man, why didn't you wrote your Origin? Shy?

And btw, Re-read my posts, My bestfriend IS Palestinian.

I never Said Palestinian-Israeli war started because of Lebanon. They fought on a land which doesn't belong to them, Killing Thousands of Lebanese.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by Altair ] ++
For someone who's been to the middle east you sure seem ignorant of historical facts. To equate the struggle of an occupied people to that of an occupier is not only unfair it goes beyond and begs the question underlying all ethical codes Why be "good". Which ties up auspiciously with the next question of the need we have of a religion and its ramifications. going back to the mid. east, Lebanon was a ticking bomb waiting to explode. Sure Israel invading to root out PLO triggered it, but the divisions in culture, religion, and POWER between the christians and muslims of the new state were far too immense to mend, you have France to thank for that. Oil has nothing to do with the war??? drop whatever you're smoking. America is a great country but here everything has a price and the price and cost of this war was OIL.
So you've BEEN to the middle east and your trying to teach me the History eh???

What do you mean Lebanon was a ticking bomb waiting to Explode? Explain Please?

France to thank for that:howler:, Alright, you know History.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by Luciano_Moggi ] ++
and do you call Sabra and Shatila a massacre or what??

you killed more than 3000 in 2 nights, you idiot!!!
Talking about the Sabra and Shatila boy, It was Hafez El Assad who Did kill the Palestinians Boy. Even If it was the Lebanese who did this, I wouldn't mind.

I mean Seriously, what do you expect from us, to open our Arms and tell ya "Hey Palestinians Refugees, Come and Fight Israeli's from our Land" This Country belongs to us(Lebanese). you should thank your God, we are keeping some thousands right now, though they deserve a kick back to Palestine.

I'd advice you to visit Beirut my friend, and take alook, you'll find out that It's only Your People that is messing it Up, Your people doing the Nasty things. Oh, And Please you should thank me that "Hezzeb Allah" is helping your butts. Cunt.

Now when you'll know something about your country and when You'll change your Profile into Palestinian, then we'll talk.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by Luciano_Moggi ] ++
Azzurri7,

The only thing that I may call you is a the best America's ass licker on the world...

You don't know anything about the whole Palestinian case, but you defend USA and Britain because they returned you to the shitty place called Kuwait...

If Palestinians sold their land, you ****er, they won't go to your shitty land to work and to build a country from nothing...

You were and will be always nothing but a group of Beduins who suck Western ducks and accuse Palestinians of selling their land...

Go and talk as you want about whatever you want, but you can't accuse others of selling their land!!!
-I am not America's ass licker, Infact I am American Citizen.

-I do know about the Palestinian case more than you'll ever Imagine. We can bring it On if you want.

-I am not from Kuwait.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,789
++ [ originally posted by Azzurri7 ] ++


Talking about the Sabra and Shatila boy, It was Hafez El Assad who Did kill the Palestinians Boy. Even If it was the Lebanese who did this, I wouldn't mind.
Displeasure twas knowing you, i cant believe I wasted time to try to reason with an ignorant of your caliber, my only solace is that by hopefully ignoring you I wouldnt have to put up with your babblings.
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
"If it was the Lebanese who did this, I wouldn't mind."

You're a loser!!!

If you don't want to allow Palestinians to fight back to their land and in the same time you forbid them from doing 70 proffessions, what do you expect from them??

And Hezb Allah is the biggest joke in the world...They are better than the maroons in protecting Israel from the Palestinian fighters!!!

Hezb Allah sucks...

Someday in the future, the Lebanese will pay for what they did to the Palestinians, I assure you...
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
For fucks sake, where the fuck are the mods when you need them. Martin, I know you've sold the site and probably dont give a shit about it anymore, but something really needs to be done.
 

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