Euro2004: the play-off draws (1 Viewer)
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++ [ originally posted by Roverbhoy ] ++
Well,well, well.
The teams with the five largest home TV audiences avoid each other.
The smell waffting from uefa is drifting my way and it reaks :fero:
Why am I not surprised by the outcome of this draw?
Well,well, well.
The teams with the five largest home TV audiences avoid each other.
The smell waffting from uefa is drifting my way and it reaks :fero:
Why am I not surprised by the outcome of this draw?
Don't go on like that just because you're unsatisfied with the draw. Doesn't show a great deal of good sportsmanship.
++ [ originally posted by Roverbhoy ] ++
Well,well, well.
The teams with the five largest home TV audiences avoid each other.
The smell waffting from uefa is drifting my way and it reaks :fero:
Why am I not surprised by the outcome of this draw?
Well,well, well.
The teams with the five largest home TV audiences avoid each other.
The smell waffting from uefa is drifting my way and it reaks :fero:
Why am I not surprised by the outcome of this draw?
++ [ originally posted by Roverbhoy ] ++
Well,well, well.
The teams with the five largest home TV audiences avoid each other.
The smell waffting from uefa is drifting my way and it reaks :fero:
Why am I not surprised by the outcome of this draw?
Well,well, well.
The teams with the five largest home TV audiences avoid each other.
The smell waffting from uefa is drifting my way and it reaks :fero:
Why am I not surprised by the outcome of this draw?
Any mathematicians here want to work out the odds of the five larger teams avoiding each other?
Strange...why do you think I'm dissatified with the draw, or that I'm a bad sportsman?
I really don't mind who Scotland got in the draw...I don't want them at the finals next year because they are so poor they would make us the laughing stock of the tournament...the competitions wipping boys.
And please don't assume that because we draw the Netherlands that we are trembling in our boots or that they were the team everyone wanted to aviod...if they were that good they would already be in the finals, and for that matter would have been at last years world cup...they ain't no big shakes anymore.
Spain would have swept us away, Croatia passed us off the park, and Wales overpowered us...Turkey was the team we wanted to avoid. We didn't want to go to Hell. In fact all the teams in the draw are better than Scotland.
To be honest I think the Dutch are more relieved at getting Scotland than we are dissapointed at getting the Netherlands. You would have struggled against most other teams
'nuff said
I think the point is that at the start of the tournament the rules stated that seedings would not be used, but when they saw the likes of Spain failing to qualify they wanted to change the rules mid way through.
I think most would agree that that is against the spirit of competition and parity...change the rules to suit yourself.
I'm not underestimating the Dutch...if they could bond they would be unstoppable. That's their problem. But Advoccat is not the man to do it.
At Rangers the dressing room was split...he had players fighting other players all by his favouritism and nepotism towards certain stars. He didn't show great motivational skills nor man management talent.
Who would drop Van Nistelroy because he was angry at getting taken off?
Brave, but stupid. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.
The Dutch are true superstars, but individuals, not a team. They could do with the Ajax coach in charge, or Wim Janssen. Then we would all be shaking in our boots
At Rangers the dressing room was split...he had players fighting other players all by his favouritism and nepotism towards certain stars. He didn't show great motivational skills nor man management talent.
Who would drop Van Nistelroy because he was angry at getting taken off?
Brave, but stupid. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.
The Dutch are true superstars, but individuals, not a team. They could do with the Ajax coach in charge, or Wim Janssen. Then we would all be shaking in our boots
That's true about Advocaat. It's sad to see the Dutch not fulfilling their potential, because by the time they get a decent coach, all the Ajax golden-boys will be gone and we won't see the best of them playing as one unit.
About van Nistelrooy, I agree, that's really stupid. Sure, he was trying to prove that no player is bigger than the team, but surely he should understand a player's frustration at being taken off. At least it shows that he cares about playing for the NT... you don't see Eriksson dropping all the players who threatened to strike...
About van Nistelrooy, I agree, that's really stupid. Sure, he was trying to prove that no player is bigger than the team, but surely he should understand a player's frustration at being taken off. At least it shows that he cares about playing for the NT... you don't see Eriksson dropping all the players who threatened to strike...
IMO opinion seeding advantage should only be given only the group phase... the seeded teams that fail to use that advantage in that phase should not be given the luxury to get that advantage again in the playoff.... failing to qualify through the group means that they are not qualified to be seeded in the first place 
++ [ originally posted by aressandro10 ] ++
IMO opinion seeding advantage should only be given only the group phase... the seeded teams that fail to use that advantage in that phase should not be given the luxury to get that advantage again in the playoff.... failing to qualify through the group means that they are not qualified to be seeded in the first place
IMO opinion seeding advantage should only be given only the group phase... the seeded teams that fail to use that advantage in that phase should not be given the luxury to get that advantage again in the playoff.... failing to qualify through the group means that they are not qualified to be seeded in the first place
Good points here aressandro...but if they had said at the begining that they intended to use seedings for the play offs then fair enough.
To be honest I couldn't care less about Scotland; they have let the fans down so many times in the past that the game against Lithuania on Saturday was the first time for years that they had a full stadium. But if I was, say a Wales fan, who haven't been to a major tournament for I don't know...fifty years, and they are now so close, but they had changed the system to seedings rather than a straight draw, they could have got Scotland rather than Russia...much better chance of going through