Euro2004: the play-off draws (1 Viewer)
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Have you seen the video from inside the tunnel at half time yet Bongiovi?
Handbags?...I think not. Someone is gonna get hit with a pretty big fine from uefa
Have you seen the video from inside the tunnel at half time yet Bongiovi?
Handbags?...I think not. Someone is gonna get hit with a pretty big fine from uefa
This is all allegedly:-
About ten-twelve people, players, cops, officials, stewards are in a massive "huddle", all throwing each other about. Unfortunately for England, it's only their players numbers we can see. Then it looks like an England player out of sight puts his hand over the camera. Although no punches are seen to be thrown tempers are certainly up. One England player (not Becks) is seen trying to climb over an official to get to somone else and he really manhandles the guy out of the way...then a team of heavies move in and the camera is thrown about a bit...
All good clean family stuff...nothing to be worried about
I don't think the England players needed anymore motivation after this.
Well done
I wouldn't mind Turkey going thro' though as they have a great style of footie
About ten-twelve people, players, cops, officials, stewards are in a massive "huddle", all throwing each other about. Unfortunately for England, it's only their players numbers we can see. Then it looks like an England player out of sight puts his hand over the camera. Although no punches are seen to be thrown tempers are certainly up. One England player (not Becks) is seen trying to climb over an official to get to somone else and he really manhandles the guy out of the way...then a team of heavies move in and the camera is thrown about a bit...
All good clean family stuff...nothing to be worried about
I don't think the England players needed anymore motivation after this.
Well done
I wouldn't mind Turkey going thro' though as they have a great style of footie
If you want to see the tunnel bust-up the BBC sports page has a Realone version available for viewing but this one looks tame to the one I saw last night
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/
TURKEY COACH GUNES GIVES ALPAY BOOT
Turkey coach Senol Gunes has said that under-fire central defender Alpay will not play for his country again.
"Alpay cannot play for the national team under these circumstances," said Gunes. "We have to abandon a player who did wrong but served for 10 to 15 years by expressing our gratitude."
The centre-back has made 83 appearances for his country and starred in their run to the 2002 World Cup semi-finals.
Alpay had earlier tried to play down his bust-up with David Beckham and the subsequent fracas that marred the Euro 2004 qualifier with England.
"What happened in the tunnel was nothing really," claimed the defender.
"I tripped down some stairs and fell over. Something then happened behind me. It is forgotten now. He (referee Pierluigi Collina) made us shake hands and then hug each other."
Alpay had been conspicuous by his absence from Aston Villa's training ground on Tuesday, fuelling speculation he may be forced out of the club.
The Turk was given permission to miss training, and with centre-half Ronny Johnsen back to full fitness, reports suggest he might be offloaded next January when the transfer window re-opens
Turkey coach Senol Gunes has said that under-fire central defender Alpay will not play for his country again.
"Alpay cannot play for the national team under these circumstances," said Gunes. "We have to abandon a player who did wrong but served for 10 to 15 years by expressing our gratitude."
The centre-back has made 83 appearances for his country and starred in their run to the 2002 World Cup semi-finals.
Alpay had earlier tried to play down his bust-up with David Beckham and the subsequent fracas that marred the Euro 2004 qualifier with England.
"What happened in the tunnel was nothing really," claimed the defender.
"I tripped down some stairs and fell over. Something then happened behind me. It is forgotten now. He (referee Pierluigi Collina) made us shake hands and then hug each other."
Alpay had been conspicuous by his absence from Aston Villa's training ground on Tuesday, fuelling speculation he may be forced out of the club.
The Turk was given permission to miss training, and with centre-half Ronny Johnsen back to full fitness, reports suggest he might be offloaded next January when the transfer window re-opens
By stating that all the big teams had draw little teams, you indirectly said that you think Scotland is a much lesser team than Holland and of course anyone would want his country face a lesser team than their own.
That's almost good enough, but not quite. C'mon! It's easy, is it not? Playing the victim! Get behind your team already and shout them past the Dutch you couard!
Couldn't agree more.
Latvia better than Scotland? Russia better than Scotland? Wales better than Scotland?
Do you have a self-esteem problem or what?
Again: I agree. And the national sentiment after that draw was relief, in the media, in the pubs, everywhere. Because Spain, Turkey and Croatia would have beat the crap out of us. With Scotland, we may actually stand a decent chance and still, there's no underestimating the Scots over here though. No-one is that foolish.
BOTTOMLINE: Scotland : Holland = 50% : 50%
I mean, sure we have some great players here but they aren't a team. Ireland proved that you can easily eliminate Holland as long as you make a common effort as opponent. Something Scotland specializes in, I've been told.
That's almost good enough, but not quite. C'mon! It's easy, is it not? Playing the victim! Get behind your team already and shout them past the Dutch you couard!
Couldn't agree more.
Latvia better than Scotland? Russia better than Scotland? Wales better than Scotland?
Do you have a self-esteem problem or what?
Again: I agree. And the national sentiment after that draw was relief, in the media, in the pubs, everywhere. Because Spain, Turkey and Croatia would have beat the crap out of us. With Scotland, we may actually stand a decent chance and still, there's no underestimating the Scots over here though. No-one is that foolish.
BOTTOMLINE: Scotland : Holland = 50% : 50%
I mean, sure we have some great players here but they aren't a team. Ireland proved that you can easily eliminate Holland as long as you make a common effort as opponent. Something Scotland specializes in, I've been told.
I never stated anything about any team...I mearly made comment on the fact that amazingly, defying the odds, the rated teams play the unrated... unsexy... unfavoured... smaller TV viewing potential teams.
Scotland ARE a lesser team than Holland, but so are all of the four other teams I rate as the smaller nations...(even Wales)...nothing specific here about Scotland or The Netherlands...so how does this make me unsporting or dissatisfied with the specific outcome of the draw ( the process behind the draw yes, but not the actual draw results themselves )
Like most Scottish Club teams...the Scotland NT don't deserve their fantastic fans. I'm not a victim, I'm a dissallusioned former NT fan...they really are crap. When the SFA appointed Andy (who?) Roxburgh to NT team coach we were shocked...the result, the team sucked; when the SFA appointed Craig (who?) Brown as NT coach we were dismayed...the result, the team sucked. At least now they are trying something new and I wish Bertie well...but the team still suck...although they do try unlike recent teams
As for being a coward...don't understand the analogy...only scared of being made fools of in Portugal...more than our pride could take
No, I have a reality trait which I can't ignore here. Remember, Scotland had to come from 2-0 down against the Faroe Island at the begining of this campaign for a draw. They lost away from home to Lithuania and were extremely fortunate to beat mighty Iceland home and away. On Saturday, the best team on the park was Lithuania...they had more attacks on target and off target, more attractive football, the full works...but less luck.
Scotland are 66th in the world...that's flattering...they should be lower.
IMHO Russia and Wales are superior in all positions.
We may have been to 8 WC's and I think 3 EC's but that's in the past. When you watch Wales they have good players in all positions...we don't,we suck
Nah...Scotland are so poor the Dutch will win home and away...not because they are a super team...but because Scotland do not have any real quality anywere on the pitch. The last decent performance I can remember was beating England 1-0 at Wembley years ago, and even then England had already won the match away from home at Hampden
Only good thing about Scotland is that the future looks good. We have a super under 18's and 21's. The 21's are the only British nation to get to the play off for the EC's, finishing top of their group ahead of Germany (how come they won their group but still have to play qualification play off's?)
Scotland ARE a lesser team than Holland, but so are all of the four other teams I rate as the smaller nations...(even Wales)...nothing specific here about Scotland or The Netherlands...so how does this make me unsporting or dissatisfied with the specific outcome of the draw ( the process behind the draw yes, but not the actual draw results themselves )
Like most Scottish Club teams...the Scotland NT don't deserve their fantastic fans. I'm not a victim, I'm a dissallusioned former NT fan...they really are crap. When the SFA appointed Andy (who?) Roxburgh to NT team coach we were shocked...the result, the team sucked; when the SFA appointed Craig (who?) Brown as NT coach we were dismayed...the result, the team sucked. At least now they are trying something new and I wish Bertie well...but the team still suck...although they do try unlike recent teams
As for being a coward...don't understand the analogy...only scared of being made fools of in Portugal...more than our pride could take
No, I have a reality trait which I can't ignore here. Remember, Scotland had to come from 2-0 down against the Faroe Island at the begining of this campaign for a draw. They lost away from home to Lithuania and were extremely fortunate to beat mighty Iceland home and away. On Saturday, the best team on the park was Lithuania...they had more attacks on target and off target, more attractive football, the full works...but less luck.
Scotland are 66th in the world...that's flattering...they should be lower.
IMHO Russia and Wales are superior in all positions.
We may have been to 8 WC's and I think 3 EC's but that's in the past. When you watch Wales they have good players in all positions...we don't,we suck
Nah...Scotland are so poor the Dutch will win home and away...not because they are a super team...but because Scotland do not have any real quality anywere on the pitch. The last decent performance I can remember was beating England 1-0 at Wembley years ago, and even then England had already won the match away from home at Hampden
Only good thing about Scotland is that the future looks good. We have a super under 18's and 21's. The 21's are the only British nation to get to the play off for the EC's, finishing top of their group ahead of Germany (how come they won their group but still have to play qualification play off's?)