Euro 2024 General Discussion Thread (42 Viewers)

[juventus4life]

My last post about Bellingham
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/so...for-lewd-gesture-against-slovakia/ar-BB1ptWX3

 

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[Seven]

Varane, Kounde, VVD and other player reps that spoke against UEFA and FIFA adding just more and more games (from nations league, conference league, to CL format) warned about this. Not just for player health in terms of injuries. But as that article explains well, it heavily effects the quality of the performances more and more.

I think it takes away from the fans as well.

Major international tournaments were exciting back in the day. Something to look forward to for months. Now there is so much football. You just got through the CL final and then the first game of the group stage at the Euros or whatever starts.

At this point the World Cup is the only thing that really excites me, but now they've made that into a tournament with a billion countries too.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Meanwhile Talksport spent the morning talking about how much england lacked a 'Rodri' type player I mean this just makes me laugh, When england were humiliated by Pirlo and england they said the same thing then "We need a Pirlo..." "Wiltshere can be our Pirlo"

Truth is there's enough quality in that england squad, just thankfully whilst the players have improved immensely from the england players of the past 10/20/30 years, their managers are still shit and prehistoric.

Lol, love their overanalyzing, they tried to play like Italy, keeping it tight and holding out for moments. In the world cup they'll try to play like Spain, focusing on heavy pressing and push it out wide to the wingers. If there's one nation that isn't short of quality to win it, it's England. Comparison is the thief of joy. I think they should be proud despite playing utter shit because with that type of football they overachieved. As for Southgate he will stay as he tries to work on a possible blended fusion on Italy and Spanish style, because that's hard to do. This might be a good thing for once.

 

[icemaη]

Varane, Kounde, VVD and other player reps that spoke against UEFA and FIFA adding just more and more games (from nations league, conference league, to CL format) warned about this. Not just for player health in terms of injuries. But as that article explains well, it heavily effects the quality of the performances more and more.

When players were complaining about the rise in the number of games and fatigue, the response from the fans (including here on Tuz) was that you are getting paid millions to kick a ball about, stop complaining and dribble. Which is such a weird take.
We are in the private equity phase of football where every dollar that can be squeezed out, will be squeezed out even if it means the quality of football goes to shit and there is a major tournament every other week.

 

[Alex-444]

I generally think it was a dogshit tournament though. Anyone disagree?

there were 2-3 good matches , but they were too few for such a tournament reasons 1. UEFA's Greed 2. Increasing the number of participants for small teams 3. A lot of matches that everyone is tired of reduced competition

 

[PhRoZeN]

Palmer scored an important goal in the final but not many teammates came to congratulate him, or nonchalantly hug him (like Watkins for example). It seems like English players from different clubs still can't get along together.

Unpopular opinion but I think Palmer is head and heels biggest talent. He's so cool and calm like a cucumber, has a fugly face you think he's got a syndrome and wanna punch, shake and wake up, but this kid is unreal. If he goes abroad, I think he will turn into world class, a step or two up from Bellingham.

 

[JuveJay]

Palmer scored an important goal in the final but not many teammates came to congratulate him, or nonchalantly hug him (like Watkins for example). It seems like English players from different clubs still can't get along together.

This sort of thing has always been a challenge for England. Years ago the Man Utd and Arsenal players famously used to clash all the time in big games and there were cliques that formed for the NT. I get the impressions that Sourhgate has built a better culture, but the advent of the modern player means that it's likely you will still find issues here and there.

 

[JuveJay]

football is so diluted these days, pointless competitions, too many competitions, shoving football down the throats of its consumers and its shit stuff.

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apparently he wasn't that well liked at Dortmund either, not sure if its arrogance or what. 1 bad season at madrid and it'll turn sour for him.

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Meanwhile Talksport spent the morning talking about how much england lacked a 'Rodri' type player I mean this just makes me laugh, When england were humiliated by Pirlo and england they said the same thing then "We need a Pirlo..." "Wiltshere can be our Pirlo"

Truth is there's enough quality in that england squad, just thankfully whilst the players have improved immensely from the england players of the past 10/20/30 years, their managers are still shit and prehistoric.

If only Kalvin Phillips was available.

 

[JuveJay]

Southgate has just resigned.

 

[Osman]

Unpopular opinion but I think Palmer is head and heels biggest talent. He's so cool and calm like a cucumber, has a fugly face you think he's got a syndrome and wanna punch, shake and wake up, but this kid is unreal. If he goes abroad, I think he will turn into world class, a step or two up from Bellingham.

Clearly Bellingham is nr one by a distance. But I think Palmer is similar level to Saka and Foden, but he has more of a clutch gene then both. He relish the opportunity of being the nr 1 guy in a team much more then they do when you watch all 3 of them.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Wtf lol, cringe warning

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Southgate steps down, what a shame.


Edit: updated video with translation, still bizarre and absurd.

 

[Osman]

Southgate has just resigned.

As expected. He said before the Euros if he don't win he will resign.


He done an admirably good consistent job with them for near decade. But you can't be afraid to play your game every time, be subdued and just grind out with cautious it will solve itself at end mentality, and win titles.

It will take you far to play that careful with this level of top quality players, strong organised defense is effective. But to go all the way you need to impose yourself and go for it, just 5-10 minutes end of games when you get desperate to equalise. Then go back into a shell when you do.



Hope the next England coach don't dismantle the organised strong defensive foundation of Southgate, it's effective base. But add more of an attacking gameplan with direct approach and sense of identity.


Don't try to copy Italy, Spain or any flavour of the year team who just beat you. But try to cultivate a football identity that works for you.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Southgate has just resigned.

That's a shame. Hope they give the job to another english yes man

Funny how england fans expect someone like klopp and pep to take the job. Even heard Bielsa's name this morning deluded bunch

 

[swag]

Southgate has just resigned.

Southgate steps down, what a shame.

Bummer. I was loving the outcomes.

But now he can destroy Team USA, Allegristyle.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

As expected. He said before the Euros if he don't win he will resign.


He done an admirably good consistent job with them for near decade. But you can't be afraid to play your game every time, be subdued and just grind out with cautious it will solve itself at end mentality, and win titles.

It will take you far to play that careful with this level of top quality players, strong organised defense is effective. But to go all the way you need to impose yourself and go for it, just 5-10 minutes end of games when you get desperate to equalise. Then go back into a shell when you do.



Hope the next England coach don't dismantle the organised strong defensive foundation of Southgate, it's effective base. But add more of an attacking gameplan with direct approach and sense of identity.


Don't try to copy Italy, Spain or any flavour of the year team who just beat you. But try to cultivate a football identity that works for you.

A footballing culture that for decades was based on kick and rush football, and kids playing on full sized pitches. It's only now they've realised to coach kids to play smaller size games to learn how to keep the ball better. Their culture right now is only existent to what the manager wants to play and right now the quality of English players is not matched by the quality of English managers.

 

[BayernFan]

How is it possible to be such massive cunts?

 

[Alin]

Southgate has just resigned.

Would have liked him to stay on tbh but his tenure was already long overdue, did a good job overall but always seemed to overthink details and come short when it mattered most, hopefully the next manager will be just as competent.

 

[Siamak]

Jurgen Klinsmann calls for major rule change to bring best out of England stars after Euro 2024 final loss

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/29246587/jurgen-klinsmann-england-euro-2024-final/

 

[Strickland]

I like the 5 player changes, keeps the tempo high and gives coaches more possibility to impact the game.