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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Btw, everybody picking Italy to win it all yet?

I want to be absolutely wrong, but I'm still going with my original pick: this will be England's year. Particularly now that the Brits have stopped jerking off to them ("Oh.... oh.... oh... It's coming home!"), Kane looks dead, and they have been pretty solid defensively.
Oddly I picked them to win it all two months ago, but they are stronger than I expected them to be. And somehow that makes me think they're going to throw it away at some point.

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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He is certainly a man reborn since his move to Inter. Confidence is sky high.

I still wonder how it would have gone had he joined Juventus instead. Still think there's a decent chance he would have flopped here.
I am sure he would have flopped, but I don't know why. Call it intuition. Or perhaps the fact that he needs so much praise and attention that he can only get that as Inter's biggest star and not as one of our many famous players.

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AFL_ITALIA

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He is certainly a man reborn since his move to Inter. Confidence is sky high.

I still wonder how it would have gone had he joined Juventus instead. Still think there's a decent chance he would have flopped here.
It would've been a very underwhelming move had he moved here, we can't even give service to Ronaldo let alone Lukaku. His decision was the best for both of us.
 

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I am sure he would have flopped, but I don't know why. Call it intuition. Or perhaps the fact that he needs so much praise and attention that he can only get that as Inter's biggest star and not as one of our many famous players.

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I think Lukaku benefited massively from being part of a well drilled Inter side under Conte's leadership. He had a very defined role that played to his strengths. Sarriventus' strategy of play terrible until golasso from CR7 or Dybala bails you out probably wouldn't have suited a player like Lukaku. Under Pirlo would have been even worse.

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It would've been a very underwhelming move had he moved here, we can't even give service to Ronaldo let alone Lukaku. His decision was the best for both of us.
I thought it was Dybala's decision that stopped the move
 

AFL_ITALIA

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I think Lukaku benefited massively from being part of a well drilled Inter side under Conte's leadership. He had a very defined role that played to his strengths. Sarriventus' strategy of play terrible until golasso from CR7 or Dybala bails you out probably wouldn't have suited a player like Lukaku. Under Pirlo would have been even worse.

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I thought it was Dybala's decision that stopped the move
Oh true, well however it happened.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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I wouldn't be surprised to see England not even top their group. They ain't winning shit.

I predict an Italy-France final with the frogs winning :sad:
Remember I really, really want to be wrong here.

People tend to overindex on individual matches or the flair of play. These tournaments are about refusing to die and surviving to live another day. They are playing like ass, but they have great room to improve for when the elimination rounds get nasty.

I can't see Italy playing better than they are now, so all they have to go from here is down.

France looks really good still, including with a speedbump in Hungary, but that's too easy of a pick.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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Remember I really, really want to be wrong here.

People tend to overindex on individual matches or the flair of play. These tournaments are about refusing to die and surviving to live another day. They are playing like ass, but they have great room to improve for when the elimination rounds get nasty.

I can't see Italy playing better than they are now, so all they have to go from here is down.

France looks really good still, including with a speedbump in Hungary, but that's too easy of a pick.
On paper, with the individuals they have they can do a lot better. They just don't seem to click as a team and look to be lacking ideas. Classic England. Also, their tournament history doesn't bode well.

There's a good chance they come up against Spain in the next round. Neither side is firing right now, but I can see Spain passing the ball around, frustrating them and cause them to break down defensively. Then again, England can turn on NFL/BPL mode and outmuscle the Spanish little people.

Also, my wishful thinking could be clouding my view :D

Italy, yeah I'm feeling cautious about them. But only 3 teams I think can beat them if both sides are at their best: France, Germany, Belgium (well, KDB and Lukaku)
 

swag

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Like Arsenal in the CL, usually England gets a weak-assed Group and the Britbangers go apeshit over how nobody can touch them. Then they collapse when they encounter decent opposition.

People expected a little better against Croatia and certainly against Scotland. But they're just as much in the thick of the hunt as anybody... and with two clean sheets. They fix their offense -- which we know has performed insanely better than this in qualifiers -- and they're going to be tough to topple. Despite their deserved curse.

Spain reminds me a lot of England in how they're underwhelming in a way, but I think Spain's problems are much worse between Covid and a lack of scoring threat. Love Morata and all, but he can't do it himself. Especially when people like Llorente are forced to play fullback when he should be more upfield.
 

Gigiventus

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"Shick doesn't make the England squad" - ESPN commentator

Thoughts?
On this form of course he makes it as almost every English striker is playing poorly. Based on club level I agree with them. Schick hasn't really been shining since his Sampdoria move, even if he is resurging in BL.

England has Kane, Sterling, Rashford, Sancho, Grealish, Calvert-Lewin, etc. To pick from upfront.
 
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