[EURO 2020 Final] ITALIA vs England (July 11th 2021) (14 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Can anyone explain how a bunch of "average" & "mediocre" Italians won this thing? I mean, reading the forum over the past few years has led me to believe there weren't any good Italian players out there. Definitely not good enough for Juve, at least.
And now this. I am confused

Playing for the NT and playing club football aren't always the same thing. Just look at Krasic and Berna. Just because some players won a tournament doesn't mean they're all amazing. Even Azzurri fans here were complaining about half the side as each match went on.

 

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[The Quazis]

Italy won at the right time, because they have a lot of question marks going forward. They've got some shortages in CB's(behind Chiellini and Bonucci who are old) and fullbacks going forward. Also no real top quality strikers. A lot is riding on Zaniolo recovering well from injury and Kean finding a team that he can grow with.

You will never have a world class player on every position. Even if you have a lot of them, it doesn't guarantee you success as we could see with Belgium recently. Italy has a nice set of players at a very high level already (Chiesa, Barella, Bastoni, Locatelli) and some promising like Zaniolo, Kean, Tonali, Raspadori etc.

 

[lgorTudor]

Heh

 

[Alex-444]

 

[The Quazis]

Anybody has a link to full match with Italian, french or Russian commentary?

 

[B3N]

 

[s4tch]

Anybody has a link to full match with Italian, french or Russian commentary?

https://rutracker.org/forum/tracker.php?nm=Италия - Англия

pick one. no french though.

 

[JuveJay]

@Boksic

 

[s4tch]

@GordoDeCentral

 

[juventus4life]

https://jmania.it/dybala-insigne-non-vinto-niente-video/

He's not that taller than the trophy.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Always loved De Rossi.

 

[Seven]

Space between Ronn and barely a footballer

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Yep, Grealish looked like he was ready to take a pen. Even nodded iirc.

Such s stupid selection by Southgate. Wanting them to suffer like he did I guess.

That's exactly right. He wanted to punish these kids. People let it slide, but the man is a psychopath.

Shouldn't ever be allowed to work with human beings again.

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[juventus4life]

I don't understand Southgate decisions:
- defend after the so early goal. He got fast players like Sancho, Saka (subbed in just to take pk or late in the game) to run against Italian aging CBs.
- let a 19 y.o player take the final pk. Grealish said he didn't refuse to take the pk.

 

[Cerval]

The thinking about Southgate choosing Saka for PKs is probably related to the same hubris their fans had. They thought the cup was in the bag, in their head they were the winners before it was even played.

Someone more level headed would have been cautious giving a 19 years old pressure from 55 years of starving for European glory.

 

[Snobist]

I don't understand Southgate decisions:
- defend after the so early goal. He got fast players like Sancho, Saka (subbed in just to take pk or late in the game) to run against Italian aging CBs.
- let a 19 y.o player take the final pk. Grealish said he didn't refuse to take the pk.

Stop critizing Southgate. He knows his team unlike british media hyping them. He is best english manager in last 54 years. With this mediocre team he punched above his weight. England made it to final.

 

[lgorTudor]

That's exactly right. He wanted to punish these kids. People let it slide, but the man is a psychopath.

Shouldn't ever be allowed to work with human beings again.

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Do people really not see the ploy to push 3 black players as the 3 English lions who brought the win home with the three last decisive penalties? Create a narrative for English racial and identity politics? BBC already had headlines ready about how [third world country immigration] = leaders that everybody should follow and how diversity leads to success. Culturally homogenous societies are losers and and diverse societies are winners - remember the heroes who brought the win after 55 years! If your country isn't overrun by paki child groomer gangs you're missing out.

Playing that card was an asymmetric risk to them. If they lost who cares just use those 50 racist insta comments to focus on how the players failed because of racism. Remember when it comes to social lecturing orchestrated by elites England is the America of Europe. Brainwashing, lying to their citizens and gaslighting 24/7. Since there is no language barrier American shit pours right on top of England. Half the people in med countries don't even speak English or know what social media is which is saving their lives.

edit: Oh I see they are getting good value out of that loss already
https://petition.parliament.uk/peti...h_q7u8kJKnloBTEsj93bwxOGvu6uAnG1A8X9pv00uM2oY

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Do people really not see the ploy to push 3 black players as the 3 English lions who brought the win home with the three last decisive penalties? Create a narrative for English racial and identity politics? BBC already had headlines ready about how [third world country immigration] = leaders that everybody should follow and how diversity leads to success. Culturally homogenous societies are losers and and diverse societies are winners - remember the heroes who brought the win after 55 years! If your country isn't overran by paki child groomer gangs you're missing out.

Playing that card was an asymmetric risk to them. If they lost who cares just use those 50 racist insta comments to focus on how the players failed because of racism. Remember when it comes to social lecturing orchestated by elites England is the America of Europe. Brainwashing, lying to their citizens and gaslighting 24/7. Since there is no language barrier American shit pours right on top of England. Half the people in med countries don't even speak English or know what social media is which is saving their lives.

edit: Oh I see they are getting good value out of this loss already
https://petition.parliament.uk/peti...h_q7u8kJKnloBTEsj93bwxOGvu6uAnG1A8X9pv00uM2oY

If russia stay based, i can see them succeeding where the 3rd reich failed.

 

[Alex-444]

russia

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[Salvo]

We've broken England and I fucking love it


Siiiiiiii

Still buzzing

 

[Elvin]

If russia stay based, i can see them succeeding where the 3rd reich failed.

Russia in its current format will not last the 2020s.