@DP84,I admit i exaggerated but considering they've been successful over two decades now,i cant quite see the trend changing, cycles or not.
Many couldn't see that Italy's will finish, but it did, simple as that. They had abundance of quality, but at one point young talents were very hard to find and once the old guns started to lose their touch, there was no one to replace them. From the likes of DP, Totti, Vieri, Montella, Inzaghi, Zola, Baggio, Maldini, Baresi, Mancini, Ferrara... it came down to this current selection of players. Rather depressive for them if you compare with the previous names.
And what has NT got to do with anything? We're discussing their club teams performances in Europe.
And my point kinda still stands.Since the introduction of the Champions league/ Uefa cup format,the results are there to see.
The only point i was trying to make that ppl are quick to brush off this recent success as a golden generation of Spain yet history suggests they've been successful before when other countries were going thru golden periods.I exaggerated in getting my point across,hope ive cleared it now.
They didn't have consistency during the '90 to be on the same level as Italian clubs and finals absolutely do count, as these are good indicators of that. Italian clubs reached the CL final on 6 occasions, Spanish on 3; in the Uefa cup the difference was even bigger, as almost every year at least one Italian club managed to reach the final, from Juve, Parma, Inter, Lazio, Viola, Torino...