[EU] Champions League 2008/2009 (17 Viewers)

[Vinny Del Pogba]

Can't we all just agree that Xavi and Pirlo are both champions and among the best midfielders in football?

 

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[Bjerknes]

To be honest, Modric never took my breath away either.

 

[Ahmed]

To be honest, Modric never took my breath away either.

agreed

 

[Fred]

@pitbull, No i said that it's harder to play through balls to players like Messi and Iniesta than it is to play through balls to strikers that make runs behind the defense.

 

[Bjerknes]

Xavi won the Euros and won the CL, yes.

And Pirlo won the WC and won the CL. With great stats by the way.

Well there you go, we have Seven showing bias to Pirlo right now.

No need to pay attention to what he says regarding Xavi.

 

[Bjerknes]

agreed

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9620240/Barcelona's-triumph-brings-celebrations,-violence

Rioting follows Barcelona's historic victory.

 

[Seven]

Well there you go, we have Seven showing bias to Pirlo right now.

No need to pay attention to what he says regarding Xavi.

That is so true. This must be showing bias. This is no objective fact at all. It's merely my opinion that Pirlo has won a WC!

 

[David01]

Xavi is not a wc player because of his teammates, his teammates get to shine because Xavi is a worldclass player

 

[Ahmed]

BTW seeing all those fake Barca fans yesterday almost made me puke

 

[Ahmed]

Xavi is not a wc player because of his teammates, his teammates get to shine because Xavi is a worldclass player

ok let's not go overboard please

 

[Seven]

Xavi is not a wc player because of his teammates, his teammates get to shine because Xavi is a worldclass player

Yes. That is very true. In fact Messi's an ordinary player. I don't think he'd be any good if it weren't for Xavi. I sure as hell wouldn't want Messi to play for Juventus. Utter shite if you ask me.

 

[Fred]

Fred, one is playing for the superior Spanish team of the last couple of years, one is playing for a team that's in transition for the last couple of years. It's not a fair comparison.

Xavi is the type of player that will always make the right pass, rarely complicate things. Iniesta on the other hand will do the unexpected, pull a pass through 4 defenders to the attackers feet. Xavi never, ever took my breath away, Iniesta and Fabregas did. They've got the inteligence, vision and skill, Xavi's got that all but to a lesser degree.

Iniesta is a more complete player than Xavi, he's a much better dribbler for example. He might be less predictable than Xavi, but he is nowhere near as Xavi in terms of effectiveness or consistency. Xavi is the better player for the time being. Xavi is still an unpredictable player though, some of the through balls he pulls off are out of this world, and he is probably the best player in the world in terms of keeping the ball. Really, how many times do you see him lose the ball, how many times do you see opposition midfielders taking the ball off him? Exactly, very little.

I would actually say he is a more intelligent and a more skillful player than Cesc, but Cesc has probably got better vision, as he can pick out a through ball better than Xavi.

And we weren't in transition last year Vlatko, we played our best season since 2005, yet Cesc did not perform well for the whole season like Xavi has done for the past 3 years.

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

I've never been a fan of Barcelona, but it was time for United to be stopped. I've been getting sick of them.

Now get Ronaldo to Real Madrid and open up the Premiership a bit.

It also pisses me off how they shit on Tevez this year.

 

[pitbull]

@pitbull, No i said that it's harder to play through balls to players like Messi and Iniesta than it is to play through balls to strikers that make runs behind the defense.

What the heck do you have with the fucking through balls? That's not the only way you collect assist, is it? :luckyluke: Andy deserves a ban by the way, that's a bit too much.

 

[Fred]

What the heck do you have with the fucking through balls? That's not the only way you collect assist, is it? :luckyluke: Andy deserves a ban by the way, that's a bit too much.

Fucking through balls? Very little players are capable of delivering them on a constant basis. Xavi is one of those few players.

 

[JCK]

Yes. That is very true. In fact Messi's an ordinary player. I don't think he'd be any good if it weren't for Xavi. I sure as hell wouldn't want Messi to play for Juventus. Utter shite if you ask me.

What did Messi do against Chelsea? In both games? NOTHING, A BIG NOTHING. Do you know why? Because Essien was there to isolate him from Xavi's and Iniesta's passing.

 

[V]

Iniesta is a more complete player than Xavi, he's a much better dribbler for example. He might be less predictable than Xavi, but he is nowhere near as Xavi in terms of effectiveness or consistency. Xavi is the better player for the time being. Xavi is still an unpredictable player though, some of the through balls he pulls off are out of this world, and he is probably the best player in the world in terms of keeping the ball. Really, how many times do you see him lose the ball, how many times do you see opposition midfielders taking the ball off him? Exactly, very little.

I would actually say he is a more intelligent and a more skillful player than Cesc, but Cesc has probably got better vision, as he can pick out a through ball better than Xavi.

And we weren't in transition last year Vlatko, we played our best season since 2005, yet Cesc did not perform well for the whole season like Xavi has done for the past 3 years.

He doesn't lose the ball because he doesn't complicate things, most of the time he will pass to the nearest player. That's why he doesn't lose the ball as much, why he has so many correct passes and when you take in account he does all the set-pieces, why he has so much assists.

Fred, you're in transition ever since Henry left, don't kid yourself. Again, you're compairing Arsenal and Barca.

 

[Bjerknes]

That is so true. This must be showing bias. This is no objective fact at all. It's merely my opinion that Pirlo has won a WC!

But that was two years ago. It has no bearing now.

Sorry, Andries. Xavi has made Pirlo look like a joke these past three years, really.

What the heck do you have with the fucking through balls? That's not the only way you collect assist, is it? :luckyluke: Andy deserves a ban by the way, that's a bit too much.

Honestly, no idea how you had a radio show. You're quite the pussy. Perhaps have me on to jazz it up a bit.

 

[David01]

Yes. That is very true. In fact Messi's an ordinary player. I don't think he'd be any good if it weren't for Xavi. I sure as hell wouldn't want Messi to play for Juventus. Utter shite if you ask me.

I never mentionned any other players I'm just saying he(Xavi) makes his teamates better with his passes
same goes for Iniesta btw
isn't that the whole idea for a playmaker?