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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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This is annoying. Read my posts. I didn't say he was not good enough. I said there are others who could do just the same. Put Pirlo in that midfield and he gives you 35 assists as well.
Pirlo has sucked major, huge, monumental dick these past two seasons. He has been so off form it's not even funny.

We actually speculated that you would bring up Pirlo, and apparently we are right.

It's all because you're an Azzurri fan. And I find that rather pathetic.

Not your Azzurri fanhood, but your reluctance to just admit Xavi is fantastic and Pirlo is crap now.
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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Because most footie-voting fans are p*ssy-lickers for offensive play, that would have to be my vote among what are going to be the natural choices. :p It's clear that broke Manchowder's back, and other than awarding the MVP to Rio Ferdinand for captaining his team into crumbling irrelevance, it's the one thing you can really point to.

But blanking Manchowder on a score sheet deserves recognition independent of the individual play. And looking at individual play on both ends of the pitch, and the contrast of what an effective captain can do, it's gotta be Puyol for me hands-down.
Puyol fucked up in attack, there were impressive runs and stuff, but he didn't score his 1 on 1 chance and his crosses were weak. But yes, he did a nice job in defence, though there weren't too much space for United, it kinda looked the same as 2007/08 semis, were Milan destroyed United 3:0, all team moved remarkable well in defence.

Without that Eto'O goal Barca as well could have been blanked on a score sheet. For me it looked just that United clearly didn't have a proper plan for situation where they are loosing :)
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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Pirlo has sucked major, huge, monumental dick these past two seasons. He has been so off form it's not even funny.

We actually speculated that you would bring up Pirlo, and apparently we are right.

It's all because you're an Azzurri fan. And I find that rather pathetic.

Not your Azzurri fanhood, but your reluctance to just admit Xavi is fantastic and Pirlo is crap now.
Jeez, now being an Azurri fan is pathetic? It's two million times better than cheering for fucking Spanish club. I know, your big hate towards english and stuff, but when you started calling nonexistent penalties in Barca favour it started to get a bit ugly.

Xavi is great and stuff, but Seven has a point there, altough the guy has had a great year, the ones next to him deserve the same credit if not bigger for using his passes, it's not like Xavi did something out of this world like someones are trying to insist, it's a lot easier to find Henry and Messi then Rooney and Park or Quagliarella and Pepe.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Pirlo has sucked major, huge, monumental dick these past two seasons. He has been so off form it's not even funny.

We actually speculated that you would bring up Pirlo, and apparently we are right.

It's all because you're an Azzurri fan. And I find that rather pathetic.

Not your Azzurri fanhood, but your reluctance to just admit Xavi is fantastic and Pirlo is crap now.
Jesus Christ no. That hasn't got anything to do with it. Pirlo has been far from his best form the last two seasons. Why you have to relate everything to that is a mystery to me. This constant frustration over people supporting the Azzurri is insane, Andy. In case you haven't noticed: Belgium wasn't even in the three last major tournaments.
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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Now I would like someone to describe how Maher was watching the match, watching his team choke and at the same time watching his team control the game.
this win is dedicated especially for you jack and other morons who suspected that barca is the greatest team ever.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,352
NO. YOU SAID TEN OTHER PLAYERS COULD DO XAVI'S JOB, MEANING THEY COULD PERFORM JUST AS WELL.

NAME THEM OR RETRACT YOUR STATEMENT AND ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG.


Stop fucking around. Just admit you're wrong.
Stop being so annoying. Xavi is one of the most ordinary players in a team filled with talent.

De Rossi
Pirlo
Xabi Alonso
Fabregas
Iniesta
Seedorf
Gerrard
Busquets
Riquelme
Diego
 

Sadomin

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Apr 5, 2005
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Seven has a point in that Xavi isn't as brilliant as he's made out to be. However, he's intelligent, accurate and sharp and is just the kind of player Barca need.

He certainly wouldn't be as good in another club team, I don't see how anyone can deny that.
 

V

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Jun 8, 2005
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Xavi is kind of like Tiago. Good player which shines in a good enviroment. Iniesta on the other hand....now there's a fuckin' sick player. Probably the most important player in Barcelona in my opinion.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Jeez, now being an Azurri fan is pathetic? It's two million times better than cheering for fucking Spanish club. I know, your big hate towards english and stuff, but when you started calling nonexistent penalties in Barca favour it started to get a bit ugly.

Xavi is great and stuff, but Seven has a point there, altough the guy has had a great year, the ones next to him deserve the same credit if not bigger for using his passes, it's not like Xavi did something out of this world like someones are trying to insist, it's a lot easier to find Henry and Messi then Rooney and Park or Quagliarella and Pepe.
Are you an Azzurri fan?

If so, I do indeed think it's pathetic. And think you're a bastard.

And your last paragraph is utter crap. Surprising for someone who supposedly had air time on a radio program. You're falling under the same trap as Seven trying to bring in other players into the argument, as if it's easier to complete a pass to Rooney than it is to Brian Ching, even if they're both making the same runs.

Are you claiming that Rooney, Parkm Quag and Pepe can't make runs? That's basically what you're doing.

Look, we get it, you freaks who love the Azzurri can't handle having somebody better than Pirlo running the show. Xavi is indeed better than Pirlo. Perhaps liking your own nation's football over gloryhunting would remedy this situation.


Jesus Christ no. That hasn't got anything to do with it. Pirlo has been far from his best form the last two seasons. Why you have to relate everything to that is a mystery to me. This constant frustration over people supporting the Azzurri is insane, Andy. In case you haven't noticed: Belgium wasn't even in the three last major tournaments.
Good.

But you still make no sense, and your original claim has not been proven.

Name ten players who can perform the same role as Xavi.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Stop being so annoying. Xavi is one of the most ordinary players in a team filled with talent.

De Rossi
Pirlo
Xabi Alonso
Fabregas
Iniesta
Seedorf
Gerrard
Busquets
Riquelme
Diego
De Rossi? No, he could not perform the same passes.

Pirlo? Now? No way, he's terrible now.

Xabi Alonso? He's better at long range passes, and doesn't have the short range and one on one ability as Xavi.

Cesc? Perhaps one day, but not right now.

Seedorf? Finished.

Gerrard? Amazing drive doesn't have the same brains and creativity as Xavi.

Busquets? :howler: What a joke.

Riquelme? Perhaps, but he's a proven choker, Xavi is not.

Diego? Perhaps, but he doesn't have the record of Xavi.

Give it up, Seven. Xavi has lead the best two teams of the past year. Don't be an idiot.
 

V

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Probably just as dumb as saying Modric is better than Diego.

No offense, Vlatko. But this is just retarded.
You're so predictable. Each time someone makes a valid point, you bring on the retard business. Really adds to your arguement.

No, Xavi is not an amazing player. Not close to Fabregas, not close to Pirlo. Deal with it. Put him in any other team than Barcelona, he'd sink without a trace. He's good, but not as good as you make him out to be. He ain't the brains of that team.

And again, yes, Modric is the better player.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,372
You're so predictable. Each time someone makes a valid point, you bring on the retard business. Really adds to your arguement.

No, Xavi is not an amazing player. Not close to Fabregas, not close to Pirlo. Deal with it. Put him in any other team than Barcelona, he'd sink without a trace. He's good, but not as good as you make him out to be. He ain't the brains of that team.

And again, yes, Modric is the better player.
You claimed Xavi is the same as Tiago. That is not the case. If you think so, especially when Xavi has so many assists as he does, then you are indeed a retard. And yes, Xavi is indeed the brains of the team, because surely Busquets, Iniesta, et cetera, are not. All plays run through Xavi, as proven by his stats, and just by watching the game. Just fucking watch the game already, FFS.

Pirlo has done crap for the past two years. Zilch, zero, nothing.

No offense, Vlatko. I love your patriotism. But it really does make you look like a fool, especially when you claim Modric is better than Diego.

It's like me claiming Landon Donovan is better than Nasri, or some crap like that.

Get the fuck over it.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
Are you an Azzurri fan?

If so, I do indeed think it's pathetic. And think you're a bastard.

And your last paragraph is utter crap. Surprising for someone who supposedly had air time on a radio program. You're falling under the same trap as Seven trying to bring in other players into the argument, as if it's easier to complete a pass to Rooney than it is to Brian Ching, even if they're both making the same runs.

Are you claiming that Rooney, Parkm Quag and Pepe can't make runs? That's basically what you're doing.

Look, we get it, you freaks who love the Azzurri can't handle having somebody better than Pirlo running the show. Xavi is indeed better than Pirlo. Perhaps liking your own nation's football over gloryhunting would remedy this situation.
My nation is yet to play against Azurri, but i doubt it will happen in the coming years unless we are put in the same qualification group as them. But whenever there is a big tournament where Azurri participates and Latvia doesn't (and it's basically every tournament minus Euro2004), i support Azurri. Of course i am a fan of a club in Latvia, as i know some part of the stuff and players, but that doesn't disturb me while im watching Juventus game and it's the same when i support Azurri and Latvia, it's pretty much two different levels. If they play against each other, of course i will support my nation as im proud citizen of my country, even if they loose 5:0.

Opening up to recieve a pass is one of the main qualities for attacking player and i think Henry and Messi does it a lot better than the other players mentioned. Did you ever thought why Juventus play so many long passes? Yes, because there are no one in the closer areas available for the pass. I agree that Pirlo has lost it (and for some time now), but i still think that the more adorable quality of player is to do something unexpected, beat your opponent and score a goal like Eto'O did yesterday not to complete many simple passes through the game and few risky ones.
 
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