[EU] Champions League 2008/2009 (17 Viewers)
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So you basically have invented a new definition for cheating? The ref was terrible (and made terrible calls against both teams), and now it's Barcelona's fault? That's silly... and most will think that's what you're saying.
I'm not a Barcelona fan, but that's a pretty ridiculous statement. I was always disgusted by of the people who said Juventus cheated our way to some of our titles - those players worked their ass off. Especially since they've come up with basically no legitimate proof of matchfixing.
So if you're saying it's Barcheatlona, than maybe we should be calling Chelsea "Cheatsea".
After all, I didn't think that Chiellini should have been sent off in leg 2, I did think that Henry was fouled in the box during the first leg, and clearly Abidal shouldn't have been sent off.
Damn that Cheatsea - they've clearly found a way to manipulate the system... bastards.
Fuck... late for work...
I'm not a Barcelona fan, but that's a pretty ridiculous statement. I was always disgusted by of the people who said Juventus cheated our way to some of our titles - those players worked their ass off. Especially since they've come up with basically no legitimate proof of matchfixing.
So if you're saying it's Barcheatlona, than maybe we should be calling Chelsea "Cheatsea".
After all, I didn't think that Chiellini should have been sent off in leg 2, I did think that Henry was fouled in the box during the first leg, and clearly Abidal shouldn't have been sent off.
Damn that Cheatsea - they've clearly found a way to manipulate the system... bastards.
Fuck... late for work...
I can't save the pics right now so i'll just give you the video and watch it carefully.
At the end Anelka does trip over his feet. But if you freeze it at 0:23 you'll see first how Abidal tries to stop him with his hand and then you'll see the feet contact. Abidal couldn't catch him so he did everything in order Anelka to lose the balance.
It was all from behind while Anelka was 1 on 1 with the goalkeeper. It was so obvious that even that particular referee had no other choice but to give red card to Abidal. Red card by the book.
At the end Anelka does trip over his feet. But if you freeze it at 0:23 you'll see first how Abidal tries to stop him with his hand and then you'll see the feet contact. Abidal couldn't catch him so he did everything in order Anelka to lose the balance.
It was all from behind while Anelka was 1 on 1 with the goalkeeper. It was so obvious that even that particular referee had no other choice but to give red card to Abidal. Red card by the book.
- is the second penalty really a penalty?
http://esports.lv/futbols/italija/video/23012008_0921_kristaps_drikis_italiano_tiesnesi - here in this vid u might see better, im talking about the fifth episode. last year, when with little interval all these dubious penalties came, i tried to analyse them.
http://esports.lv/futbols/italija/video/23012008_0921_kristaps_drikis_italiano_tiesnesi - here in this vid u might see better, im talking about the fifth episode. last year, when with little interval all these dubious penalties came, i tried to analyse them.
Lets put it this way:
What was your first impression when Anelka fell? It was happening so fast, Abidal was right behind him. I believe a huge majority thought it was a foul from behind.
Even after replays and slow motion you and i can't agree if there was contact or not. You can imagine how tough was it to notice it live. It looked like a clear foul which deserves a red card since it was from behind. The referee was convinced that it was a foul because no way he was going to give a red card.
This can be compared with the penalty call on Malouda. If you watch the replays you'll see that Alves is inside his box while Malouda has one foot inside the box and the other exactly on the line. Replays show it was a penalty. It was a foul for sure so there was no way not to give a foul. But at the moment of the foul, without watching the replays, it was impossible to say if it was inside or outside the box (the line means inside, btw). I don't blame the referee for that mistake because it was a tough call.
But Pique's handball....
Everyone saw it when it happened. No-one needed replays to see it. The ref just waved play on. He knew it was a clear penalty, but he said play on.
My last post on this about the mistakes that took place on that match. I am absolutely sure that Chelsea were robbed. Was it simply very poor refereeing or was there a purpose i can't claim, but the fact stands that Chelsea was the team that suffered from the ref and i couldn't keep calm when people said how the ref was equally unfair to both sides.
What was your first impression when Anelka fell? It was happening so fast, Abidal was right behind him. I believe a huge majority thought it was a foul from behind.
Even after replays and slow motion you and i can't agree if there was contact or not. You can imagine how tough was it to notice it live. It looked like a clear foul which deserves a red card since it was from behind. The referee was convinced that it was a foul because no way he was going to give a red card.
This can be compared with the penalty call on Malouda. If you watch the replays you'll see that Alves is inside his box while Malouda has one foot inside the box and the other exactly on the line. Replays show it was a penalty. It was a foul for sure so there was no way not to give a foul. But at the moment of the foul, without watching the replays, it was impossible to say if it was inside or outside the box (the line means inside, btw). I don't blame the referee for that mistake because it was a tough call.
But Pique's handball....
Everyone saw it when it happened. No-one needed replays to see it. The ref just waved play on. He knew it was a clear penalty, but he said play on.
My last post on this about the mistakes that took place on that match. I am absolutely sure that Chelsea were robbed. Was it simply very poor refereeing or was there a purpose i can't claim, but the fact stands that Chelsea was the team that suffered from the ref and i couldn't keep calm when people said how the ref was equally unfair to both sides.
You said that Messi never scored against English opposition. I responded by pointing out that unlike Zlatan he has performed very well against English teams. He did very well against Man Utd last year and in the two games against Chelsea in 2006.
You brought up English opposition not me.
You can call them whatever you want, did i ever ask you not to call them anything?
Personally i prefer Jack's Barchokelona though, that one was good
Alen you have lost the ability to be neutral in this thread a long time ago. Now you've lost the ability to read too. Did you not see the word "almost" there? Did you not think that it was put intentionally?
I assumed we all watch Italian football here, so my assumption was that when i said almost, everybody will understand why the word "almost" was there. Well it looks like i have to spell it out for you after all. Other than the Sweden- Italy game in Euro 2004 and the Inter- Milan game of 2006-2007 most Nesta - Zlatan duels ended up for the former.
Did anybody say that?
You brought up English opposition not me.
You can call them whatever you want, did i ever ask you not to call them anything?
Personally i prefer Jack's Barchokelona though, that one was good
I assumed we all watch Italian football here, so my assumption was that when i said almost, everybody will understand why the word "almost" was there. Well it looks like i have to spell it out for you after all. Other than the Sweden- Italy game in Euro 2004 and the Inter- Milan game of 2006-2007 most Nesta - Zlatan duels ended up for the former.
Did anybody say that?
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