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Essien14

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Both have developed to a pretty high standard.

Both were headless chickens until they were about 27.
Utter nonsense.

Paul Scholes has always been an excellent passer of a ball and was also one of the most prolific goal scoring midfielders in his prime. To say he was a headless chicken is just wrong.

Frank Lampard turned 30 last year and has been consistently scoring and creating goals for the last 6 seasons. The perfect example of a box to box midfielder, he can pass, defend, attack, shoot, croos...he can do everything.

You don't know anything.
 

Fred

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Utter nonsense.

Paul Scholes has always been an excellent passer of a ball and was also one of the most prolific goal scoring midfielders in his prime. To say he was a headless chicken is just wrong.

Frank Lampard turned 30 last year and has been consistently scoring and creating goals for the last 6 seasons. The perfect example of a box to box midfielder, he can pass, defend, attack, shoot, croos...he can do everything.

You don't know anything.
Always had the talent, never had the brains. Up until the last 3-4 years that is.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Utter nonsense.

Paul Scholes has always been an excellent passer of a ball and was also one of the most prolific goal scoring midfielders in his prime. To say he was a headless chicken is just wrong.

Frank Lampard turned 30 last year and has been consistently scoring and creating goals for the last 6 seasons. The perfect example of a box to box midfielder, he can pass, defend, attack, shoot, croos...he can do everything.

You don't know anything.
lampard can defend? then whats all the fuss about the gerrard - lampard england partnership about then?
 

Red

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Utter nonsense.

Paul Scholes has always been an excellent passer of a ball and was also one of the most prolific goal scoring midfielders in his prime. To say he was a headless chicken is just wrong.

Frank Lampard turned 30 last year and has been consistently scoring and creating goals for the last 6 seasons. The perfect example of a box to box midfielder, he can pass, defend, attack, shoot, croos...he can do everything.

You don't know anything.
I know that folk who are that dismissive of those they disagree with are rarely worth conversing with.


Always had the talent, never had the brains. Up until the last 3-4 years that is.
:tup:
 

Essien14

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lampard can defend? then whats all the fuss about the gerrard - lampard england partnership about then?
He can defend adequately enough as a central midfielder for it to be considered a plus. I'm not saying he can do a defensive midfielders job but he can close down space, mark his man and double up with his full back when the team needs it.

The Gerrard and Lampard partnership will never work because somebody wrongly informed Gerrard he was a no.10 and he should forget all about everything else and just focus on attacking when he doesn't have the intelligence for that role.

If he was coached correctly Gerrard would have been one of the finest midfielders in world football today but he has been badly managed by all his coaches at Liverpool.
 

Essien14

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I know that folk who are that dismissive of those they disagree with are rarely worth conversing with.




:tup:
I'm that dismissive because I think you're so wrong that you must be joking. Everybody is allowed to have their opinion but to say they were headless chicken and have only been good for 3/4 years is so wrong I can't take it seriously.

Lampard even in his West Ham days was a promising youngster and moved to Chelsea at 22. He had an ok first season but everything after that has been excellent and has just been getting stronger every season that goes.

Scholes was world class in his prime and could control the passing game, score goals and create goals.
 

Fred

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He can defend adequately enough as a central midfielder for it to be considered a plus. I'm not saying he can do a defensive midfielders job but he can close down space, mark his man and double up with his full back when the team needs it.

The Gerrard and Lampard partnership will never work because somebody wrongly informed Gerrard he was a no.10 and he should forget all about everything else and just focus on attacking when he doesn't have the intelligence for that role.

If he was coached correctly Gerrard would have been one of the finest midfielders in world football today but he has been badly managed by all his coaches at Liverpool.
Gerrard is one of the finest midfielders in Europe. I'd take him over Lampard and Scholes every day of the week and two times on a Friday.
 

Fred

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I'm that dismissive because I think you're so wrong that you must be joking. Everybody is allowed to have their opinion but to say they were headless chicken and have only been good for 3/4 years is so wrong I can't take it seriously.

Lampard even in his West Ham days was a promising youngster and moved to Chelsea at 22. He had an ok first season but everything after that has been excellent and has just been getting stronger every season that goes.

Scholes was world class in his prime and could control the passing game, score goals and create goals.
Woah now thats stretching it, either you use the term "world class" too loosely or you're overrating the ginger head. Either way, you're very wrong.

Zidane is world class, Messi is world class Ronaldinho in his prime was world class. Scholes is a very good midfielder, one of the finest in Europe the past few years. But world class? You're avin a laugh.
 

Henry

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Gerrard is one of the finest midfielders in Europe. I'd take him over Lampard and Scholes every day of the week and two times on a Friday.
at this point in time, definitely. Lampard not the game-changer that gerrard is, and scholes is past his prime of course
 

Fred

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at this point in time, definitely. Lampard not the game-changer that gerrard is, and scholes is past his prime of course
I'd take Gerrard in his prime over Scholes in his prime too actually. Gerrard is a top player and a match winner, Scholes is a fine midfielder but he's no Steven Gerrard.
 

Essien14

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Mar 10, 2009
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I can see you're worth conversing with. Lampard's worked hard, and it shows, he's well rounded and effective, no doubting that, but I wouldn't put him in the same league as Scholes.
Well I put him in the same league and there are many others who would. You don't do what Lampard has done in the last 6 years and just say he's well rounded or effective. He has worked very hard and developed into the ideal central midfielder.

I've realised a lot of people dislike Lampard for one reason or another.
 

Henry

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I'd take Gerrard in his prime over Scholes in his prime too actually. Gerrard is a top player and a match winner, Scholes is a fine midfielder but he's no Steven Gerrard.


music to a liverpool fan's ears :D

I would say Scholes was better at controlling a game, but no doubt Gerrard is one of the best match winners around. With Scholes the whole team plays better, but Gerrard can single-handedly beat a team
 

Red

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Woah now thats stretching it, either you use the term "world class" too loosely or you're overrating the ginger head. Either way, you're very wrong.

Zidane is world class, Messi is world class Ronaldinho in his prime was world class. Scholes is a very good midfielder, one of the finest in Europe the past few years. But world class? You're avin a laugh.
Scholes was world class for a couple of years.

The Man Utd midfield of Giggs-Scholes-Keane-Beckham (circa 1999) was one of the best I have ever seen.
 
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