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Henry

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Sep 30, 2003
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You implied that he was just about defelections and I showed you evidence that he hasn't scored that many.

He's scored more goals than your idol Gerrard.:tup:

As for you being a Liverpool fan it's obvious you' will say Lampard is crap and Gerrard is the best ever.:lol:

Seriously if I had known you were a Liverpool fan I wouldn;t have replied so much because you're obviously bias.

I NEVER said he was just about deflections, I made a crack about it. you then said that: there weren't that many to begin with (10%?!) and that they were intentional anyway because of his IQ. Which one is it?! sure he's scored more goals than Gerrard, do I care? "It's obvious you' will say lampard is crap and gerrard is the best ever" I never said either of those, I specifically said Lampard is very good, and that Gerrard, while top class, has weaknesses. you're the one being blinkered, not me.
 

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Essien14

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I NEVER said he was just about deflections, I made a crack about it. you then said that: there weren't that many to begin with (10%?!) and that they were intentional anyway because of his IQ. Which one is it?! sure he's scored more goals than Gerrard, do I care? "It's obvious you' will say lampard is crap and gerrard is the best ever" I never said either of those, I specifically said Lampard is very good, and that Gerrard, while top class, has weaknesses. you're the one being blinkered, not me.
Guess that joke flew over your head like a Steven Gerrard long ball.:lol:
 

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I NEVER said he was just about deflections, I made a crack about it. you then said that: there weren't that many to begin with (10%?!) and that they were intentional anyway because of his IQ. Which one is it?! sure he's scored more goals than Gerrard, do I care? "It's obvious you' will say lampard is crap and gerrard is the best ever" I never said either of those, I specifically said Lampard is very good, and that Gerrard, while top class, has weaknesses. you're the one being blinkered, not me.
Henry, what do you expect from a Chelsea toolbox?
 

Henry

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Nope. Gerrard is just the better athlete.

Lampard is much smarter, better passer and a lot more disciplined. He can play centre midfield or attacking midfield.

Gerrard can't play central midfield. His own club manager doesn't trust him because he will leave gaps and chase the ball like a headless chicken so they play him on the right or behind a striker so he isn't a liability.

Seriously just watch him play sometimes and not the highlights.:tup:
Lampard might be more disciplined and smarter. Gerrard is still a better tackler, better shooter, more creative, and a better dribbler.
 

Stephan

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like i said before, alot of the epl's dominance in the cl is down to the fact the last 5 years the same 4 have qualified for the cl in comparison to spain and in particular Italy's entrances. I mean if the epl is as strong as they claim i see no dominance from them in the uefa cup.
This is actually a good point. If the top 4 is always same, one would think the other good clubs in epl would be interested to seriously challenge uefa cup.
And yes even if the cup already has a pretty poor reputation, in the end it is still a cup and there is also money.
But i guess thats the problem, there is more money in epl then in uefa cup. So they dont bother much.
Middlesbr are the only team in recent years who come in mind from england to do something in uefa cup.
 

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Yes only a Chelsea fan would compare Lampard a more consistent goal scoring and creative central midfielder to somebody who doesn't have the same record.

I need to stop that.:tup:
With all that it's really a shame Lamps has no leadership skills, otherwise the English NT might have played in the Euros.
 

Essien14

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Lampard might be more disciplined and smarter. Gerrard is still a better tackler, better shooter, more creative, and a better dribbler.
Lampard long shooting is no worse than Gerrard's. Both powerful shooters who can score from anywhere.

More creative? Lampard consistenly has more assists than him season after season. If I could be bothered I would find the stats for you, guess you'll have to find the truth for yourself.

Better dribbler? Gerrard really isn't a dribbler and neither is Lampard so that is just a straw you're clutching at. I'll give it to you anyway.:tup:
 

Henry

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This is actually a good point. If the top 4 is always same, one would think the other good clubs in epl would be interested to seriously challenge uefa cup.
And yes even if the cup already has a pretty poor reputation, in the end it is still a cup and there is also money.
But i guess thats the problem, there is more money in epl then in uefa cup. So they dont bother much.
Middlesb are the only team in recent years who come in mind from england to do something in uefa cup.

next season and the season after should be interesting as Villa and Man City improve. City have the money to really challenge, and Villa are already good while being very young
 

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Nope. Gerrard is just the better athlete.

Lampard is much smarter, better passer and a lot more disciplined. He can play centre midfield or attacking midfield.

Gerrard can't play central midfield. His own club manager doesn't trust him because he will leave gaps and chase the ball like a headless chicken so they play him on the right or behind a striker so he isn't a liability.

Seriously just watch him play sometimes and not the highlights.:tup:
So you have so far said I know nothing, accused people of being biased against Lampard and now I don't watch these players play, apparently.

None of these points are valid.
 

Essien14

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With all that it's really a shame Lamps has no leadership skills, otherwise the English NT might have played in the Euros.
Clutching at straws.:lol:

Gerrard just because he runs around a lot doesn't make him a good captain. Carragher is more of a captain than Gerrard.

Gerrard is a good player but he is one of the most overrated ever. Makes me sick to my stomach.:lol:
 

Henry

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Lampard long shooting is no worse than Gerrard's. Both powerful shooters who can score from anywhere.

More creative? Lampard consistenly has more assists than him season after season. If I could be bothered I would find the stats for you, guess you'll have to find the truth for yourself.

Better dribbler? Gerrard really isn't a dribbler and neither is Lampard so that is just a straw you're clutching at. I'll give it to you anyway.:tup:
until recently he's had MUCH better forwards to play with. Gerrard can dribble, and personally I find it to be a good trait for an attacking midfielder ;)
 

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Clutching at straws.:lol:

Gerrard just because he runs around a lot doesn't make him a good captain. Carragher is more of a captain than Gerrard.

Gerrard is a good player but he is one of the most overrated ever. Makes me sick to my stomach.:lol:
I haven't made any posts about Gerrard.

Now that the door is open. Gerrard is ten times the captain Lamps could ever be. Hell Gareth Barry is a better captain. The Neville brothers are better captain material. Lampard is good, but he isn't a game changer, he doesn't motivate, and he isn't even looked to for leadership from his own teammates.
 
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