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Oggy

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Dec 27, 2005
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:agree:

That's why I think that Rafa made a mistake by bringing both Voronin and Torres, now he have 4 pretty equal attackers and he can't decide eho will be his starting duo, not to mention that his rotation policy doesn't help either. I think that Liver should have brought some high proffilic goalscorer and play him alongside Kuyt who is hardworking and than he also would have Crouch on the bench who can be rotated.
 

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I like Veronin and Kuyt better. But Crouch is good too. This is where having too many forwards sucks. Not everyone can play.
Kuyt is a good footballer, but he ain't a goal scorer and he isn't very creative.

I don't know how Liverpool can make him most effective.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Kuyt is a good footballer, but he ain't a goal scorer and he isn't very creative.

I don't know how Liverpool can make him most effective.
Kuyt is a hard worker who never quits on a play and runs as long as you need him to. That's why I am so high on him.
 

Enron

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:agree:

That's why I think that Rafa made a mistake by bringing both Voronin and Torres, now he have 4 pretty equal attackers and he can't decide eho will be his starting duo, not to mention that his rotation policy doesn't help either. I think that Liver should have brought some high proffilic goalscorer and play him alongside Kuyt who is hardworking and than he also would have Crouch on the bench who can be rotated.
That's why we bought Torres. Once he fully settles in I think he's going to impress everyone. But as we all know, nothing is a sure thing so that why Rafa went with the platoon of strikers.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
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Yeah, but Torres was never true goalscorer, he can't guarantee 20 goals per season like some players. However there is a fact which goes in Rafa favour and that's there wasn't many available goalscorers.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Why do people believe Arsenal have a weak squad?

It's one of the best squads we have had under Wenger.

Fred, are you sure you support Arsenal...?
sure i do mate...but i like to think that i'm objective and i say it how it is..i agree with our rival fans sentiments when they say the media harp on about us too much.(when we're winning)
 

northbank

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Mar 22, 2006
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Not any more then any other team that occupies the top spot in the league and definitely not more then ManU by any stretch of the imagination.

It's not objectivity to agree with that Tim Sherwood article; the guy knows very little about football and has despised Arsenal for an eternity, but besides that he is advocating filling the league with cloggers and the quality of the premiership is already in decline.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Not any more then any other team that occupies the top spot in the league and definitely not more then ManU by any stretch of the imagination.

It's not objectivity to agree with that Tim Sherwood article; the guy knows very little about football and has despised Arsenal for an eternity, but besides that he is advocating filling the league with cloggers and the quality of the premiership is already in decline.
Man Utd are the most overrated team in England and the Media have a wankfest when they win the league., no doubt about that....but they do the same with us..14 games into the season, and they're already comparing our squad to the "invincibles".

Tim Sherwood is a spud, and i expected more of a biased view from him..but he was objective there..and he gave credit where credit was due..

I hear a lot of gooner fans that complain the English media hates them and doesnt like them as much as the rest of the top 4(Man Utd i agree with)..i dont agree one bit(other than Man utd)..IMO the media will worship anyone who's on top..and its exactly what they're doing with us now...its just that we're enjoying it too much to realise it.

Btw, we dont play the best football in europe(like the English media says)...Barca does..its just that we're getting results now and barca are not.

But i do believe that on current form we are the best team in europe in the meantime
 

northbank

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Mar 22, 2006
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There is no way that article is objective and Sherwood isn't a spurs fan (he actually supported arsenal when he was a fan but that's neither here nor there).

The reason fans believe Arsenal get a raw deal is mostly from match of the day and the fact is that arsenal do get a raw deal on there in comparison to say ManU or Liverpool.

Btw, we dont play the best football in europe(like the English media says)...Barca does..its just that we're getting results now and barca are not.

But i do believe that on current form we are the best team in europe in the meantime
I never said that we did but while we are on the point, it's rather lazy to suggest that is only something being suggested in the english media. Lippi came out and said it today, Pele last week and many others from outside of England have jumped on board over the last month or so.

Also, the most glowing praise hasn't come from the media or even ex-players and managers, but rather players who have come up against us and, for what it is worth, I think those comments mean a whole lot more.

As much as the performances are overhyped, in equal measure they are undervalued just as much and you seem to fall into the latter camp under the misguided notion that it is somehow being objective.

In my opinion, this team hasn't even played at it's peak once this season, but while we keep winning, we should be happy to take all of the plaudits that come our way.
 

Fred

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There is no way that article is objective and Sherwood isn't a spurs fan (he actually supported arsenal when he was a fan but that's neither here nor there).

The reason fans believe Arsenal get a raw deal is mostly from match of the day and the fact is that arsenal do get a raw deal on there in comparison to say ManU or Liverpool.



I never said that we did but while we are on the point, it's rather lazy to suggest that is only something being suggested in the english media. Lippi came out and said it today, Pele last week and many others from outside of England have jumped on board over the last month or so.

Also, the most glowing praise hasn't come from the media or even ex-players and managers, but rather players who have come up against us and, for what it is worth, I think those comments mean a whole lot more.

As much as the performances are overhyped, in equal measure they are undervalued just as much and you seem to fall into the latter camp under the misguided notion that it is somehow being objective.

In my opinion, this team hasn't even played at it's peak once this season, but while we keep winning, we should be happy to take all of the plaudits that come our way.
The bolded statement i can agree with...Our team is young and can still improve..players like RVP and Rosicky havent played like they can yet this season..Eduardo is yet to settle in..We are capable of better.

So what are your thoughts on the Newcastle game tommorow??

With Cesc , RVP and Hleb out..you think the boys can get all 3 points from the Geordies park?? we all saw how bad we played without Hleb and Cesc in the Sevilla and Aston Villa games..but Newcastle are in terrible form..and i'd like to think even our current squad could beat them...that being said..Rosicky needs to step up imo....he's going to have to shoulder more responsibility with those two out..it will be his job to provide the creativity.
 

northbank

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Mar 22, 2006
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I think we should win it, Newcastle are a poor side and I always feel that if we aren't missing players from the back four we can generally get a win or a draw against that sort of opposition. Our options for the front six are generally pretty decent although the football will sometimes stutter a little.

I'll predict a 3-1.
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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That's why we bought Torres. Once he fully settles in I think he's going to impress everyone. But as we all know, nothing is a sure thing so that why Rafa went with the platoon of strikers.
torres ahs im pressed everyone already....however it must be disturbing to see he cant score away from home. at anfield with the crowd behind him he looks a goal machine but away from home he has missed shed-load of chances.........very strange
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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I think we should win it, Newcastle are a poor side and I always feel that if we aren't missing players from the back four we can generally get a win or a draw against that sort of opposition. Our options for the front six are generally pretty decent although the football will sometimes stutter a little.

I'll predict a 3-1.
I for one dont feel too confident about the game..i think they will suddenly learn how to defend against us..(dont big Sams teams do that?) and give us a hard time..i still expect us to win..but only from a last minute winner from the Flamster
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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torres ahs im pressed everyone already....however it must be disturbing to see he cant score away from home. at anfield with the crowd behind him he looks a goal machine but away from home he has missed shed-load of chances.........very strange
The way I look at it is he's a young player who's bagged 11 in the 17 matches he's played. Not so bad. Think of what will happen once he gets comfortable on the road.
 

HelterSkelter

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Apr 15, 2005
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Shearer poised to replace ailing Allardyce
By Steve Wilson

Alan Shearer's first job in football management is unlikely to be in charge of England as it emerged that he was being lined up as a possible replacement for Sam Allardyce at Newcastle.

Defeat at Blackburn over the weekend means Newcastle have taken just a single point from a possible 15 and supporter dissatisfaction has contributed to the growing pressure on Allardyce just five months in to his tenure.With Arsenal next to visit St James' Park the chances of halting the slide this week are remote.

Newcastle owner Mike Ashley has publicly backed his manager but reports have circulated that Ashley is giving serious consideration to Allardyce's position.

Allardyce's prosaic approach to tactics, that served him so well with Bolton, has seen him the victim of vitriol from the stands, but yesterday around 6,000 travelling fans - Ashley amongst them - backed both manager and team in a deliberate show of unity.

However, Allardyce has yet to win over large sections of the support, something that would not be of concern for Shearer.

Shearer is fondly remembered as one of the club's greatest strikers and, as local who used to stand on the Gallowgate as a youngster, retains a rapport with the regulars at St James' Park.

Shearer has already indicated he would be interested in managing his home-town club and has been linked with the role in the past.

The former England forward does not hold the required professional license qualification but has attended a number of coaching courses since retirement, whilst fulfilling his media commitments as a BBC pundit.

It is likely that Shearer would be given similar dispensation to Avram Grant, who does not yet have the mandatory certificate, or Shearer's former England colleague Gareth Southgate who was given extra time to complete the requirement whilst managing Middlesbrough.

Allardyce had overseen Newcastle's best start to a Premier League season for a decade but results have dramatically slumped in recent weeks with the suggestion that some players are unresponsive to Allardyce's training techniques.

Should he navigate his way through Wednesday's meeting with the league leaders, Allardcye's future will be placed under scrutiny again on Saturday when Alex McLeish's Birmingham City visit Newcastle.

Shearer had been touted as a possible replacement for Steve McClaren as England manager - as, ironically, has Allardyce - but FA chief executive Brian Barwick's declaration he is looking for a "world-class manager" appears to have ruled him out.

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I think Big Sam should be given more time,but then again,id love to see Shearer managing Newcastle.Having club legends manage the very same club is always great,and i cant think of the last player who did that.
 
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