Isn't that just his usual "I can't say what I really want because I will be fined"?
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But really there's no point in not saying something about the team.
Ancelloti was sacked for finishing second after winning the double in his first season. Mou finished 3rd, then won the EPL (QF humiliating exit in CL), then wont even make top 4. If it was anyone else he'd have been sacked a long time ago.
They wont recover this season as long as he is in charge. They need a change.
They wont recover this season as long as he is in charge. They need a change.
Maybe. I see many differences between the two collapses though so I wouldn't feel as strongly about sacking Allegri.
Mou has a world class squad that has been playing together for 2 years and were supposedly improving. He did some business in the transfer market that strengthened the squad further and so on. He doesn't need to change formations, he doesn't need to integrate anyone all he needs is just to motivate the players. The longer he stays the less motivated the squad becomes. If they can get a motivator that uses Mou's system exactly they'll be back to normal levels.
Allegri on the other hand has a new squad with injuries that destroyed his midfield to which there are no substitutes available. He has an attack that also lost its best man and replaced him with a kid that again has no substitute and is asked to regularly fill in massive shoes. Any coach would struggle in that position and the youngsters are bound to be de-motivated. Imagine if Pirlo and Vidal had gotten injured for about 2-3 months at the start of 2011, we would have had no momentum at all and probably the squad would have been demotivated.
I think Allegri can turn this ship around provided the midfield stays healthy. He has underperformed given the squad (even after injuries) there is no doubt about that but I wouldnt expect another better coach to have done much better. Anyone in my view would have struggled. The better coaches would have struggled less but struggled nevertheless.
My position is thus
Plan A: to seek out a better manager like Ancelotti, Simeone or Mourinho because they'd probably do better even if they struggle. They are better coaches in general so why not upgrade when we can, especially that we need the best now.
Plan B: In the absence of this caliber of coaches, stick with Allegri until he has his midfield healthy and fit for a run of games. If he turns the ship around then keep him.
Plan C: If the performances still suck (with no injuries) then sack him and go for a change even if its just an okay coach.
Mou has a world class squad that has been playing together for 2 years and were supposedly improving. He did some business in the transfer market that strengthened the squad further and so on. He doesn't need to change formations, he doesn't need to integrate anyone all he needs is just to motivate the players. The longer he stays the less motivated the squad becomes. If they can get a motivator that uses Mou's system exactly they'll be back to normal levels.
Allegri on the other hand has a new squad with injuries that destroyed his midfield to which there are no substitutes available. He has an attack that also lost its best man and replaced him with a kid that again has no substitute and is asked to regularly fill in massive shoes. Any coach would struggle in that position and the youngsters are bound to be de-motivated. Imagine if Pirlo and Vidal had gotten injured for about 2-3 months at the start of 2011, we would have had no momentum at all and probably the squad would have been demotivated.
I think Allegri can turn this ship around provided the midfield stays healthy. He has underperformed given the squad (even after injuries) there is no doubt about that but I wouldnt expect another better coach to have done much better. Anyone in my view would have struggled. The better coaches would have struggled less but struggled nevertheless.
My position is thus
Plan A: to seek out a better manager like Ancelotti, Simeone or Mourinho because they'd probably do better even if they struggle. They are better coaches in general so why not upgrade when we can, especially that we need the best now.
Plan B: In the absence of this caliber of coaches, stick with Allegri until he has his midfield healthy and fit for a run of games. If he turns the ship around then keep him.
Plan C: If the performances still suck (with no injuries) then sack him and go for a change even if its just an okay coach.
I thought this was a disgusting comment:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34730265
Last week the FA's newly appointed BME boss Wayne Allison said he wanted to increase the number of black coaches.
If this is all Troy Townsend brings to the table then he's doing nothing. He thinks he's fighting 'the black corner' but all that kind of mentality achieves is putting people off hiring black managers because they end up too scared to sack them when it calls for it in case they end up labelled.
They got sacked because of results, simple as that. Powell won 15 out of 58 games with Huddersfield and has only 3 wins out of 15 games this season. Ramsey has looked out of his depth since day 1 at QPR, he was lucky to get the job and I thought it was a credit to QPR to take that gamble on a rookie coach. After being relegated they were one of the favourites to go up but have even started to slip away from play-offs and into mid-table.
At least Frank Sinclair showed a bit of common sense.
Clubs will hire managers they think will do well. There just aren't many black ones around. One exception who is doing well is Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink at Burton. He won't be hired because he is black, and he won't be fired because he is black. He'll get a bigger job soon and his future will rest on results.
I like what the FA are doing trying to get more black ex-players and others involved in coaching but the reality is that currently the interest and numbers just aren't there. If there are 1 in 5 going for every position and no one is getting hired then come back, but it's more like 1 in 25, if that, across football league clubs, when you consider how many foreign managers are appointed even at lower league level now. Powell's replacement at Huddersfield? Borussia Dortmund II's coach.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34730265
Last week the FA's newly appointed BME boss Wayne Allison said he wanted to increase the number of black coaches.
If this is all Troy Townsend brings to the table then he's doing nothing. He thinks he's fighting 'the black corner' but all that kind of mentality achieves is putting people off hiring black managers because they end up too scared to sack them when it calls for it in case they end up labelled.
They got sacked because of results, simple as that. Powell won 15 out of 58 games with Huddersfield and has only 3 wins out of 15 games this season. Ramsey has looked out of his depth since day 1 at QPR, he was lucky to get the job and I thought it was a credit to QPR to take that gamble on a rookie coach. After being relegated they were one of the favourites to go up but have even started to slip away from play-offs and into mid-table.
At least Frank Sinclair showed a bit of common sense.
Clubs will hire managers they think will do well. There just aren't many black ones around. One exception who is doing well is Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink at Burton. He won't be hired because he is black, and he won't be fired because he is black. He'll get a bigger job soon and his future will rest on results.
I like what the FA are doing trying to get more black ex-players and others involved in coaching but the reality is that currently the interest and numbers just aren't there. If there are 1 in 5 going for every position and no one is getting hired then come back, but it's more like 1 in 25, if that, across football league clubs, when you consider how many foreign managers are appointed even at lower league level now. Powell's replacement at Huddersfield? Borussia Dortmund II's coach.
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