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zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
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You're insane. As is everyone who thinks Tevez is so much better than Hazard. If Hazard goes to Barcelona, he plays. If he goes to Real Madrid, he plays. The same cannot be said for Tevez. As much as I like Tevez and as much as I like to boast about Juventus players, I think you'd have to be blind to take him over Hazard.

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I consider them pretty much of equal quality. Aguero has the benefit of being slightly less crazy, which has helped his career IMO.
Tevez is the better player

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and better than Aguero too
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,348
Not sure if he'd play for Barca. Neymar - Suarez - Messi is pretty much as good as you can get outside of Ronaldo.
They'd make him play somewhere. I think Suarez would be a possible victim, with Messi playing a more central role. Or they'd just change things up more. Either way, he'd play often. Tevez, not so much.

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would still take tevez, tevez is a warrior
You just like him better. Which is fair enough, I like him better too.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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They'd make him play somewhere. I think Suarez would be a possible victim, with Messi playing a more central role. Or they'd just change things up more. Either way, he'd play often. Tevez, not so much.

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You just like him better. Which is fair enough, I like him better too.
i do but his assets also do speak for themselves

That's I like him much more, similar to how I also like Marchisio infinitely more than Messi & Ronaldo together. But Aguero is still the better footballer imo.
nuance here is technically better doesnt translate as better footballer imo tevez as a package is a better footballer, when you take into account the goals, the hard work, the grinta. Drop aguero in west ham, man u bench and he wont deliver as well as carlitos.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,511
As I allways said, I would choose Aguero simply because I'm more confident he has the ability to be decisive against anyone at any level in any moment. Shit he did for City at the last minutes, and amount of goals he scored despite missing so many goals, and in Atletico too. Kid is bonafide star. Tevez is a total warrior and also great (he adapts and goes to the very end for you), but Aguero edges out for me in footballing level. If fully healthy, he is the non Messi/CR attacker I would dream to have. Technically brilliant attacker.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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As I allways said, I would choose Aguero simply because I'm more confident he is able to decisive against anyone at any level in any moment. Shit he did for City at the last minutes, and amount of goals he scored despite missing so many goals, and in Atletico too. Kid is bonafide star. Tevez is a total warrior and also great, but Aguero edges out for me in footballing level. If fully healthy, he is the non Messi/CR attacker I would dream to have.
more than suarez/cavani? i would pick those 2 ahead of aguero
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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As I allways said, I would choose Aguero simply because I'm more confident he is able to decisive against anyone at any level in any moment. Shit he did for City at the last minutes, and amount of goals he scored despite missing so many goals, and in Atletico too. Kid is bonafide star. Tevez is a total warrior and also great, but Aguero edges out for me. If fully healthy, he is the non Messi/CR attacker I would dream to have.
If you look at their game/goal ratio for City, they are pretty similar. Aguero edges out slightly. But he was pretty much always the focal point of their attack, where Tevez has endured a lot of criticism. I think both are pretty much equal, Tevez might be more of a warrior, but Aguero's easier to work with, which is definitely a plus.

Aguero
Manchester City 110(69)

Tevez
Manchester City 126(62
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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If you look at their game/goal ratio for City, they are pretty similar. Aguero edges out slightly. But he was pretty much always the focal point of their attack, where Tevez has endured a lot of criticism. I think both are pretty much equal, Tevez might be more of a warrior, but Aguero's easier to work with, which is definitely a plus.

Aguero
Manchester City 110(69)

Tevez
Manchester City 126(62
i rather have a warrior :D
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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more than suarez/cavani? i would pick those 2 ahead of aguero
Suarez definitely.I'll alter Osman's last statement and say Suarez is the non Messi-CR attacker i dream of.

Aguero is definitely better than Cavani.No doubt imo.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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more than suarez/cavani? i would pick those 2 ahead of aguero
I would to pick Suarez over him prolly, but not Cavani, even if I love Cavani overall package, Aguero is more talented for sure and undeniably the superior player. Suarez I could pick over Aguero more recently simply because he realized he is supposed to score, and alot too in past year or two since his last Liverpool season. Before that he was getting by with humble figures really and just settled with being all around 2nd forward wing attacker, he took it up a notch to Aguero level and above (especially since the argie is injured sooo much). But if push come to shove, if he got over his health problems, I would pick Aguero still prolly simply because I like him more. More fun to watch and not as annoying.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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i rather have a warrior :D
So would I, but like I said, it's a question of who do you like better. Both are massively talented and both guarantee goals. I will say one thing though: Tevez has been underrated throughout his career and I don't understand why that is.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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I would to pick Suarez over him prolly, but not Cavani, even if I love Cavani overall package, Aguero is more talented for sure. Suarez I could pick over Aguero more recently simply because he realized he is supposed to score, and alot too in past year or two since his last Liverpool season. Before that he was getting by with humble figures really and just settled with being all around 2nd forward wing attacker, he took it up a notch to Aguero level and above (especially since the argie is injured sooo much). But if push come to shove, if he got over his health problems, I would pick Aguero still prolly simply because I like him more. More fun to watch and not as annoying.
fyi this dispels the myth i am partial to argies :p

No one wants a frailbody on their team. Pretty sure if you poke Aguero in his shoulder, he bruises.
hes a little gay worse than michael jackson!

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So would I, but like I said, it's a question of who do you like better. Both are massively talented and both guarantee goals. I will say one thing though: Tevez has been underrated throughout his career and I don't understand why that is.
because up until man citeh, where he had problems, he was never a focal point in the european spotlight
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,511
If you look at their game/goal ratio for City, they are pretty similar. Aguero edges out slightly. But he was pretty much always the focal point of their attack, where Tevez has endured a lot of criticism. I think both are pretty much equal, Tevez might be more of a warrior, but Aguero's easier to work with, which is definitely a plus.

Aguero
Manchester City 110(69)

Tevez
Manchester City 126(62
That is true, they are pretty close, I said edges out or choose him by inch for a reason, even though Aguero is more skillfull and dead on goal hungry attacker then Tevez, the latter makes it up with being that much more of a fierce fight for every inch player. But I include their overall Europe career in general since Atletico/West Ham days til now, Tevez clearly has had more struggles and hurdles, and perhaps not so great career choices (poor management, he should since leaving Boca only gone to teams where he is at the big stage and is the center piece of the whole team), while Aguero's issues is injury. But in overall watching them both, Aguero simply edges out infront of him for having that extra gear in ability as a player to just put someone like Bayern to the sword when you are needed, and ability to carry his team on regular basis, reminds me a little of Romario in a way.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Let's entirely disregard that Tevez himself has stated on multiple occasions that Serie A and its playing style helped him to grow as a player. There's obvious difference between the level of his performance during the time he had played in England and this season in Juventus (Serie A) when he definitely reached his peak. He was very good player before, not quite the game chager, while right now he is undisputedly world class player capable of taking the game by the storm. Too bad he's soon to be 31 yo.
I think you inadvertently underrated Tevez here, he was amazing back when he was in the EPL. Ferguson made a huge mistake when he benched Tevez for Berbatov in his final season, and he lived to regret that mistake, because in Tevez's first few seasons for City he was their star player, he absolutely tormented teams like United and Chelsea as Osman pointed out. In his last couple of seasons, he kind of self sabotaged his career tbh, he obviously wasn't very happy in England, but to say he wasn't a game changer in England is to completely underrate his time there. Also, that season with West Ham when he single handedly kept West Ham from relegating was amazing. The guy has always been a warrior, and I for one thought very highly of him when he was in the EPL. I'd actually argue that he was probably better at City than he is at Juve.

That being said, you are also massively underrating Hazard's form this season. I find it highly debatable to put Tevez ahead of him tbh. Both are arguably the best players in their respective leagues, and both have played very well in the CL this season despite Hazard not doing too well in the knockout stage.

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That is true, they are pretty close, I said edges out or choose him by inch for a reason, even though Aguero is more skillfull and dead on goal hungry attacker then Tevez, the latter makes it up with being that much more of a fierce fight for every inch player. But I include their overall Europe career in general since Atletico/West Ham days til now, Tevez clearly has had more struggles and hurdles, and perhaps not so great career choices (poor management, he should since leaving Boca only gone to teams where he is at the big stage and is the center piece of the whole team), while Aguero's issues is injury. But in overall watching them both, Aguero simply edges out infront of him for having that extra gear in ability as a player to just put someone like Bayern to the sword when you are needed, and ability to carry his team on regular basis, reminds me a little of Romario in a way.
I agree with this. I really admire Tevez as a player, but Aguero just edges it.
 

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