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Bianconero81

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I think we should keep Hernanes as a depth option. We cannot sell him for much, and his performance was good at year end. Pereyra makes more sense because he is actually sell-able.
Yeah. Let's keep a crap player because we can't sell him, and sell a guy who is actually a decent player and a versatile midfielder to boot. Supreme logic.

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Zaza, Hernanes, Pereyra.
Gabigol, L. Gustavo.
Very underwhelming end to the Mercato. Come on Mark. We can do better than that 70s porn stache dude. We must.

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Herrara
Matic
James R
Diawara

These are the names that I consider good enough.
Herrera = No further links. We don't seem interested.
Matic = Conte said No!
James R = AM/SS or Winger. He shouldn't be deployed as a CM.
Diawara = Raw potential. Tons of upside, but he seems intent on joining Roma :yuck: :inter:

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@Mark Delle Ali? Yay or Nay? Price? :boh:
 
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Yeah. Let's keep a crap player because we can't sell him, and sell a guy who is actually a decent player and a versatile midfielder to boot. Supreme logic.

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Very underwhelming end to the Mercato. Come on Mark. We can do better than that 70s porn stache dude. We must.

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Herrera = No further links. We don't seem interested.
Matic = Conte said No!
James R = AM/SS or Winger. He shouldn't be deployed as a CM.
Diawara = Raw potential. Tons of upside, but he seems intent on joining Roma :yuck: :inter:

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@Mark Delle Ali? Yay or Nay? Price? :boh:
Hernanes was exponentially better than Pereyra last year, particularly at the end of the year. The notion that Hernanes was bad last year is not supported by his performances...
 

Bianconero81

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Hernanes was exponentially better than Pereyra last year, particularly at the end of the year. The notion that Hernanes was bad last year is not supported by his performances...

Hernanes is a liability, and earns too much money, considering what he offers/brings to the table. He isn't getting any younger, and he is incredibly/extremely slow, and has no resale value, so we might as well get rid of him while we can, before it becomes too late. Pereyra was injured last season, but in 2014-2015, he was a very solid player for us. I'd rather keep him, seeing as he earns less, is younger, and more versatile.
 
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Hernanes is a liability, and earns too much money, considering what he offers/brings to the table. He isn't getting any younger, and he is incredibly/extremely slow, and has no resale value, so we might as well get rid of him while we can, before it becomes too late. Pereyra was injured last season, but in 2014-2015, he was a very solid player for us. I'd rather keep him, seeing as he earns less, is younger, and more versatile.
1) He's not a liability. I showed statistics earlier that supported that. He is not dispossessed that frequently relative to other players in his position.
2) He is not incredibly slow. He doesn't have the pace of Pereyra but also plays a deeper role. You're acting like he's Pirlo. The man is still quite athletic.
3) He earns 3 million. Yeah, it is a bit much, in the context of our turnover, it isn't a big deal.

Ultimately, Hernanes is absolutely necessary to keep on this team as a depth option because quite frankly, if Pjanic goes down, there are no deep-lying playmaker options. There is a reason that even as Pereyra became healthy, Hernanes was preferred over him last year. It is because Hernanes in the last 10 games of the season was an absolute stud. Look over the game log: he won a MOTM one game, and put together a string of very good performances. Considering what we can sell him for, given his age, Pereyra is the player you sell.

You sell Hernanes:
-You get maybe 6 million, save 3 million in wages, and lose a useful player who was important in the last 10 games of the year.
You sell Pereyra:
-You get 13-15 million, save 1.5 million in wages, and lose a guy who was a non-factor last year, and is less suited for our tactical set-up.

To me selling Pereyra is the no brainer, especially if it means being able to sign an impact player.

Ultimately, we can agree to disagree here, but my only issue is the label that Hernanes was bad last year, because statistics prove objectively that he wasn't.
 

Bianconero81

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1) He's not a liability. I showed statistics earlier that supported that. He is not dispossessed that frequently relative to other players in his position.
2) He is not incredibly slow. He doesn't have the pace of Pereyra but also plays a deeper role. You're acting like he's Pirlo. The man is still quite athletic.
3) He earns 3 million. Yeah, it is a bit much, in the context of our turnover, it isn't a big deal.

Ultimately, Hernanes is absolutely necessary to keep on this team as a depth option because quite frankly, if Pjanic goes down, there are no deep-lying playmaker options. There is a reason that even as Pereyra became healthy, Hernanes was preferred over him last year. It is because Hernanes in the last 10 games of the season was an absolute stud. Look over the game log: he won a MOTM one game, and put together a string of very good performances. Considering what we can sell him for, given his age, Pereyra is the player you sell.

You sell Hernanes:
-You get maybe 6 million, save 3 million in wages, and lose a useful player who was important in the last 10 games of the year.
You sell Pereyra:
-You get 13-15 million, save 1.5 million in wages, and lose a guy who was a non-factor last year, and is less suited for our tactical set-up.

To me selling Pereyra is the no brainer, especially if it means being able to sign an impact player.

Ultimately, we can agree to disagree here, but my only issue is the label that Hernanes was bad last year, because statistics prove objectively that he wasn't.
Statistics only reveal half truths. Ultimately, we are going to have to disagree, because I definitely don't want to keep him, even as a depth/rotational option, and I sincerely hope that we drop him from the CL squad if he continues to reject all offers. The man is no stud in my book.
 

Kian

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1) He's not a liability. I showed statistics earlier that supported that. He is not dispossessed that frequently relative to other players in his position.
2) He is not incredibly slow. He doesn't have the pace of Pereyra but also plays a deeper role. You're acting like he's Pirlo. The man is still quite athletic.
3) He earns 3 million. Yeah, it is a bit much, in the context of our turnover, it isn't a big deal.

Ultimately, Hernanes is absolutely necessary to keep on this team as a depth option because quite frankly, if Pjanic goes down, there are no deep-lying playmaker options. There is a reason that even as Pereyra became healthy, Hernanes was preferred over him last year. It is because Hernanes in the last 10 games of the season was an absolute stud. Look over the game log: he won a MOTM one game, and put together a string of very good performances. Considering what we can sell him for, given his age, Pereyra is the player you sell.

You sell Hernanes:
-You get maybe 6 million, save 3 million in wages, and lose a useful player who was important in the last 10 games of the year.
You sell Pereyra:
-You get 13-15 million, save 1.5 million in wages, and lose a guy who was a non-factor last year, and is less suited for our tactical set-up.

To me selling Pereyra is the no brainer, especially if it means being able to sign an impact player.

Ultimately, we can agree to disagree here, but my only issue is the label that Hernanes was bad last year, because statistics prove objectively that he wasn't.
You are right, the hatred is going too far. I remember the 1st leg of Juve - Bayern when he replaced a very underwhelming Marchisio at HT. When Hernanes came on he was considerably better and our team started to finally work. But nobody on this forum wants to hear about that because it doesn't fit their view of things. In the 2nd leg Hernanes started the game and again played really well, as did our team. Mind you, we were playing Bayern, not Cagliari....
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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:tup: can't believe we are even disgusting the merits of hernanes
Disgusting indeed :D

The way some are so effusive in their praise and adulation of Hernanes leads me to believe that we should actually be erecting a statue outside the stadium in his honor, as opposed to actually shipping him off to some club at the nearest possible opportunity.

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Who remembers when Cesc looked like this

Looks like a gay version of Count Dracula.
 
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1) He's not a liability. I showed statistics earlier that supported that. He is not dispossessed that frequently relative to other players in his position.
2) He is not incredibly slow. He doesn't have the pace of Pereyra but also plays a deeper role. You're acting like he's Pirlo. The man is still quite athletic.
3) He earns 3 million. Yeah, it is a bit much, in the context of our turnover, it isn't a big deal.

Ultimately, Hernanes is absolutely necessary to keep on this team as a depth option because quite frankly, if Pjanic goes down, there are no deep-lying playmaker options. There is a reason that even as Pereyra became healthy, Hernanes was preferred over him last year. It is because Hernanes in the last 10 games of the season was an absolute stud. Look over the game log: he won a MOTM one game, and put together a string of very good performances. Considering what we can sell him for, given his age, Pereyra is the player you sell.

You sell Hernanes:
-You get maybe 6 million, save 3 million in wages, and lose a useful player who was important in the last 10 games of the year.
You sell Pereyra:
-You get 13-15 million, save 1.5 million in wages, and lose a guy who was a non-factor last year, and is less suited for our tactical set-up.

To me selling Pereyra is the no brainer, especially if it means being able to sign an impact player.

Ultimately, we can agree to disagree here, but my only issue is the label that Hernanes was bad last year, because statistics prove objectively that he wasn't.
This is complete BS. Pereyra is much more useful to us than Hernanes and I have nothing against Hernanes staying. Hernanes was bad for most of last season no matter what your statistics tell you and this is proved by objectively watching every time he played.
 
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