Egypt: the worst country in the world? (1 Viewer)

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#22
What makes you say that?


Bisco, you realize I wasn't serious right?
A government's main responsibility is its citizens. As a government you should be more concerned with your citizens getting employed than immigrants or foreigners. If there are laws to ensure that private companies also respect that and have a certain percentage of locals in their workforce, that is something i would agree with.

:tup: I wish people had that same mentality here.
Some probably do, but hide it out of fear of being called racist. Which is ridiculous.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#23
What if the 'immigrant' is a citizen?

I don't know...I don't really agree with you. The one who's more qualified should get the job. A little competition never hurt anyone.
Ok maybe i shouldn't have used the term "immigrant". "Foreigner" would be a better word to use.

Immigrant or not, as long as you're a citizen, you should have equal rights to other citizens of course.

and of course the more qualified should always get the job, what i mean is that if there are two candidates for the job who have similar qualifications, the local should get the job because he has more of a right to it, being in his country imo.

You all are talking about the private sector, right?
I am.
 

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#24
What if the 'immigrant' is a citizen?

I don't know...I don't really agree with you. The one who's more qualified should get the job. A little competition never hurt anyone.
That's the way I see it. If they have citizenship then that's all that matters.



Illegal immigrants are a totally different case.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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#25
A government's main responsibility is its citizens. As a government you should be more concerned with your citizens getting employed than immigrants or foreigners. If there are laws to ensure that private companies also respect that and have a certain percentage of locals in their workforce, that is something i would agree with.



Some probably do, but hide it out of fear of being called racist. Which is ridiculous.
I agree with the Gov't having that responsibility. But the private sector should hire who they think is the best applicant.

In the construction industry here, there was a big uproar because a lot of the companies decided to use Chinese labour rather than local labour. Local labour is much more costly, and MUCH less efficient than the Chinese labour, so I can't blame them.
 

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Ok maybe i shouldn't have used the term "immigrant". "Foreigner" would be a better word to use.

Immigrant or not, as long as you're a citizen, you should have equal rights to other citizens of course.

and of course the more qualified should always get the job, what i mean is that if there are two candidates for the job who have similar qualifications, the local should get the job because he has more of a right to it, being in his country imo.
Fred, the word is a non-citizen.

And what do you mean by local? The guy who has longer citizenship or the guy from the city or region the job is in?
 

X Æ A-12

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#27
Some probably do, but hide it out of fear of being called racist. Which is ridiculous.
Of course much of America has that mentality just not where I'm at. Alot of people want to protect the rights of CA's "undocumented workers" which is just straight crazy IMO.

Legal immigrants I have no problem with.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#28
I agree with the Gov't having that responsibility. But the private sector should hire who they think is the best applicant.

In the construction industry here, there was a big uproar because a lot of the companies decided to use Chinese labour rather than local labour. Local labour is much more costly, and MUCH less efficient than the Chinese labour, so I can't blame them.

Private companies operating in a given country should at least have a certain percentage of citizens in their workforce.

Of course if there are clear differences between two different applicants, naturally the company has every right to go for the foreigner.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#29
Fred, the word is a non-citizen.

And what do you mean by local? The guy who has longer citizenship or the guy from the city or region the job is in?
I mean citizen. Any citizen is a local. They use the word local here, more than citizen, maybe because its such a small country.

Of course much of America has that mentality just not where I'm at. Alot of people want to protect the rights of CA's "undocumented workers" which is just straight crazy IMO.

Legal immigrants I have no problem with.

:lol:
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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#30
Private companies operating in a given country should at least have a certain percentage of citizens in their workforce.

Of course if there are clear differences between two different applicants, naturally the company has every right to go for the foreigner.
I hate laws that dictate who and employer can and cannot hire.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#34
Do you mean you are against regulating employment practices in the private sector?

How about regulations against discriminatory employment practices? Are you against that too?
 

X Æ A-12

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#37
I mean citizen. Any citizen is a local. They use the word local here, more than citizen, maybe because its such a small country.




:lol:
I'm not joking. SF and Berkeley claim to be "safe cities" for illegals and both have tried to pass ordinances to prevent their police officers from detaining illegals.

They are allowed to use all sorts of public services and obtain benefits without fear of their legal status being questioned and I've been called "racist" numerous times for not agreeing with policies like theses. :rolleyes:
 

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#38
Of course much of America has that mentality just not where I'm at. Alot of people want to protect the rights of CA's "undocumented workers" which is just straight crazy IMO.

Legal immigrants I have no problem with.
Yeah, fruit pickers is a huge issue and always will be. That's the main source of the "rights for undocumented workers" movement. It's really a shame because most of the growers are responsible for the workers being the in the US. Then you have the spill over into the other facets of industry such as construction, mechanics, and other things so that people think you have to protect the rights of all undocumented workers.
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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#40
Ok maybe i shouldn't have used the term "immigrant". "Foreigner" would be a better word to use.

Immigrant or not, as long as you're a citizen, you should have equal rights to other citizens of course.

and of course the more qualified should always get the job, what i mean is that if there are two candidates for the job who have similar qualifications, the local should get the job because he has more of a right to it, being in his country imo.



I am.
Well I agree with that.
 

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