Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (14 Viewers)

Bisco

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Egypt's constitutional principles under threat

Arabic News Digest

Egypt must beware of theocratisation

Proponents of political Islam are attacking Egypt's "constitutional principles" proposal, columnist Ali Ibrahim wrote in the London-based newspaper Asharq Al Awsat.

The proposal is under review by the cabinet and the ruling Military Council, but the attacks give one reason to believe that the country's Islamists may well be intending to "hijack" Egyptian identity and reduce it to religiosity, the columnist wrote.

The constitutional principles' draft, as published in the Egyptian press, contains nothing very divisive. "These are broad principles … providing for a civil, democratic state, predicated on the values of citizenship, rule of law, respect of plurality, justice, equal opportunity," the writer said.

According to this proposal, the people represent the nation's sovereignty and are, alone, the source of power. "It's hard to see how anyone with good intentions would object to any of these principles," the columnist went on.

Why is it, then, that the undercurrents of political Islam in Egypt, namely the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Gamaa Al Islamiya, are uneasy about it? The "sovereignty to the people" item might be the answer. "It is the phrase that protects the nation's identity from going down the route of a theocracy," the writer noted.

Following a theocratic model, say like Iran, where "spiritual leadership" overwhelms politics, is no way to go for Egyptians.



source: http://www.thenational.ae/thenation...egypts-constitutional-principles-under-threat
 

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Bisco

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Islamists: Supra-constitutional principles would provoke Egyptians

A coalition of Islamic groups issued a statement on Monday refusing supra-constitutional principles.

The Islamic Forces Coalition said issuing the principles would provoke Egyptians and violate their will.

The coalition is notorious for calling for the 29 July protest, which has been described as a show of force by Islamists in Tahrir Square.

This week the ruling Supreme Council for Armed Forces (SCAF) declared an intention to issue a constitutional declaration stipulating rules for electing the members of the assembly that will write the new constitution, once there is a consensus among political groups.

Members of the assembly will be selected from the parliament that will be elected in November. Secular groups fear Islamists' domination of the new parliament.

The Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis threaten escalation if the SCAF issues such principles.

The government said it will consider several documents, proposed by individuals and institutions, when setting the assembly's rules of election.

The statement also said that issuing a constitutional declaration is at odds with the people’s will and the March referendum, is a return to dictatorship and a violation of democracy.

The coalition urged revolutionary youth to maintain the achievements of the revolution.

The coalition includes Salafis, the Muslim Brotherhood, Jama’a al-Islamiya, the People’s Will Front, the Islamic Egyptian Youth Coalition, and the Freedom and Justice, Nour, Reform and Development and Asala parties.


source : http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/486597
 

Bisco

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yup, they have a totally different agenda and the salafist in poarticular have been known to be financed from other nations to bring in there "islamic egypt" bs. this is the main disadvantage of a long transistional period it makes people jump on the band wagon with insults and accusations flying left and right. hopefully things get better its enough to be honest and i cant wait for presidential elections so we can move forward and set proper plans for the future to make up for the 30 years we wasted.
 
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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    A young Egyptian guy now climbed over the Zionist embassy and threw away the Zionist flag...

    Still thousands of young guys are gathering around the embassy since two days and are asking for closing that embassy and firing the ambassador.
     

    Naggar

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    Sep 4, 2007
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    And he put the Egyptian flag instead.



    I'm glad the whole world is seeing true Egyptians now, not the Egypt Mubarak and his governments made us look like on his time specially the last 10 years
    History seems to be repeating itself , but I don't see an Abdelnasser in the army this time
     

    Bisco

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    جملة منتشرة على تويتر الآن | ألطمي يا إسرائيل ..... مصر فيها شباب بيطيييييييييير
     

    Bisco

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    Yeah because if there's one thing that will make egypt stable, it's pissing of the USA :disagree:
    i get yr point iz, but this anger is meant for isreal for getting into egyptain air space and so coldly killing three egyptain soliders. not the first time but bec mubarak was there best friend we never stood up for our rights. iz had egypt done that and killed not three isreali soliders but just one my god we would'nt hear the end of it and there boring blah blah. for once iz we feel we r valuable!!!! for 30 years u could walk over an egyptain and its normal like we r not human beings!!


    also iz the us does'nt care if we r stable, or if we r democratic the main thing is no one touches isreal even if they mascare us in cold blood. what happened in the past was mubarak gave in bec he cared for being a president more than caring for us and our dignity.
     

    Wahdan

    Ace of Spades
    Mar 14, 2009
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    Just got back from there! Endless demonstration in front of the embassy. A guy climbed 20 floors to replace the disgraceful flag with the glorious Egyptian flag. He's given a name: Flagman :D

    Imagine a world without Israel. Damn!!
     

    IrishZebra

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    Jun 18, 2006
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    i get yr point iz, but this anger is meant for isreal for getting into egyptain air space and so coldly killing three egyptain soliders. not the first time but bec mubarak was there best friend we never stood up for our rights. iz had egypt done that and killed not three isreali soliders but just one my god we would'nt hear the end of it and there boring blah blah. for once iz we feel we r valuable!!!! for 30 years u could walk over an egyptain and its normal like we r not human beings!!


    also iz the us does'nt care if we r stable, or if we r democratic the main thing is no one touches isreal even if they mascare us in cold blood. what happened in the past was mubarak gave in bec he cared for being a president more than caring for us and our dignity.
    I understand but the most important thing is to actually get people back to work, fight the corruption and develop Egypt properly. Even basic strategy would be to wait until you're strong enough to actually fight with a good chance of winning. Without Mubarak you could buy weapons from China instead of the US and maybe finally wipe israel off the map (politically speaking). The point when arab revolutions fail is the point where the US and friends getting worried about their interests. That's when assassinations and Coup d'etats happen. Basically starting a fight with a guy when you just got kicked in the nuts for 30 years is a bad idea, especially is he's stronger than you to begin with.

    Pick on Yemen or something...
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    Apr 14, 2005
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    I understand but the most important thing is to actually get people back to work, fight the corruption and develop Egypt properly. Even basic strategy would be to wait until you're strong enough to actually fight with a good chance of winning. Without Mubarak you could buy weapons from China instead of the US and maybe finally wipe israel off the map (politically speaking). The point when arab revolutions fail is the point where the US and friends getting worried about their interests. That's when assassinations and Coup d'etats happen. Basically starting a fight with a guy when you just got kicked in the nuts for 30 years is a bad idea, especially is he's stronger than you to begin with.

    Pick on Yemen or something...
    all this makes sense, but look back in history, more specifically look into the french revolution and their war with the austrians(mightiest army of the time) the dangerous things about revolutions is how unpredictable they are, and that goes for the enemies as well
     
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    ReBeL

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    Yeah because if there's one thing that will make egypt stable, it's pissing of the USA :disagree:
    They won't be satisifed whatever the Arabs do, so what is the matter of keeping silent over the crimes of Zionists? Do you think anybody can accept that his son is killed without having anybody punished for it? Just because the killer is a Zionist is not a good justification for people to make them shut up and to continue their lives as if they lost nothing.

    i get yr point iz, but this anger is meant for isreal for getting into egyptain air space and so coldly killing three egyptain soliders. not the first time but bec mubarak was there best friend we never stood up for our rights. iz had egypt done that and killed not three isreali soliders but just one my god we would'nt hear the end of it and there boring blah blah. for once iz we feel we r valuable!!!! for 30 years u could walk over an egyptain and its normal like we r not human beings!!

    also iz the us does'nt care if we r stable, or if we r democratic the main thing is no one touches isreal even if they mascare us in cold blood. what happened in the past was mubarak gave in bec he cared for being a president more than caring for us and our dignity.
    Just got back from there! Endless demonstration in front of the embassy. A guy climbed 20 floors to replace the disgraceful flag with the glorious Egyptian flag. He's given a name: Flagman :D

    Imagine a world without Israel. Damn!!
    :tup:
     

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