My point is that maybe you shouldn't paint such a rosy picture as you did before "freedom for everyone", when in fact that's not true. So Islamic societies of x centuries ago treated other religious communities better than other societies did at the time, fine. But that is not sufficient to claim that it is some kind of superb model when in fact it still has serious flaws. Same goes for Mo's fabled ideal society.
Notice that what we're talking about here is the ideal. Ideals never become realized. Yet even so there are groups being oppressed, and that's not very different from Ahmadinejad saying "there are no homosexuals in Iran". Pretend the problem doesn't exist.
A just society doesn't tell some of its citizens "maybe you should leave the country", do you disagree?
Notice that what we're talking about here is the ideal. Ideals never become realized. Yet even so there are groups being oppressed, and that's not very different from Ahmadinejad saying "there are no homosexuals in Iran". Pretend the problem doesn't exist.
A just society doesn't tell some of its citizens "maybe you should leave the country", do you disagree?
so when the majority want something, then it should be. this is the whole idea of democracy
well the majority are Muslims and they don't like homosexuality, it existed as a matter of fact in the Islamic country hundreds of years ago and I read of many incidents, I even read about a corrupt Caliph of Bani Ummayya who had a pet slave, for homosexual fun.
ideal is never realized of course, but when you focus on science and taking your country forward, issues like homosexuality become very minor, but when your society is weak, lazy and with no rights, people tend to major in minors and give them more time and thought than they deserve to let out their chronic depression
Homosexuality will always exist, you may see it as a freedom and I may see it as a disgusting abnormal behaviour but at the end there's a place on the planet for everyone and the freedom to choose
I definitely agree that society shouldn't tell anyone to leave, let's assume we have 5% christians and 5% homosexuals in Egypt, and let's also assume we have democracy
now in Egypt you're not allowed to build a Mosque or a Church without a license, and Christians are against that
what are the chances they get what they want through a vote?
what are the chances homosexuals get approved by society through the same way?
it won't happen!
even in the west and Europe where there's freedom as you define it, there are oppresed minorities everywhere, and there will always be
but compared to the treatment minorites get everywhere in the world now, and in other countries during the time of the Islamic country, I'd say Islam treated minorites very well
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