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Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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You tell them Knowah.


Marotta is stupid looking, but he is not stupid.


Like you said, we see this one hit wonder every year in serie A, yet people do not learn. Muriel, Iturde, Jovetic, the other Palermo dude who went to the premier and I dont remember the name now...

ALL of them turned to be traps, or expensive flops. Marotta, even when juventus has the mpney to fashion buy, will not play that game. He will go for players who got the numbers to back them up,like tevez and Cavani, or solid young dudes who can be analyzed in depth like Berardi and Morata.

I prefer us to buy Berardi, rather than burning that cash on Dyabala, and dont get me wrong, I see him as a talented dude, but not at 40 mils. No fuking way.

We will not buy him. You will see. All this years, our formula has given us results, slowly but surely. It will not be changed now. And if we get Cavani, it will be done in our terms, marotta style.
 

Rollie

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2008
5,143
:D

Hydde, I honestly cannot believe you're comparing Dybala to players like Muriel, Iturbe, and Abel Hernandez. Totally different style players, none of whom make those around them better. Nowhere near the intelligence level with those guys (or productivity, for that matter, when you consider goals + assists). There is simply no comparison there.

Jovetic has a lot of class, but his career has obviously been derailed by injuries; he can't stay healthy.

Cavani is a pipe dream, bud. Other than the fact that he's a good player who is having issues with PSG, and a bunch of reporters would like to connect Pogba with a move to PSG, Cavani moving to Juventus just doesn't make any sense at all. Both he and PSG would effectively have to accept, what, less than half what the previous transfer fee and current salary are? The guy we just bought last summer, who is playing extremely well, also isn't an ideal partner for Edi up front.

None of it makes sense to me.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,990
:D

Hydde, I honestly cannot believe you're comparing Dybala to players like Muriel, Iturbe, and Abel Hernandez. Totally different style players, none of whom make those around them better. Nowhere near the intelligence level with those guys (or productivity, for that matter, when you consider goals + assists). There is simply no comparison there.

Jovetic has a lot of class, but his career has obviously been derailed by injuries; he can't stay healthy.

Cavani is a pipe dream, bud. Other than the fact that he's a good player who is having issues with PSG, and a bunch of reporters would like to connect Pogba with a move to PSG, Cavani moving to Juventus just doesn't make any sense at all. Both he and PSG would effectively have to accept, what, less than half what the previous transfer fee and current salary are? The guy we just bought last summer, who is playing extremely well, also isn't an ideal partner for Edi up front.

None of it makes sense to me.
I said traps and flops. Dybala could be a trap... but i dont think he will be a super flop. The issue here is the price. And i can compare them because like those i mentioned....everyone had the same opinion of those players in those mercatos (they are young, talented, with potential, etc etc). This summer the sugar boy is Dybala..but the same way there have been some of hem Special mention to Jovetic..who was the darling of everyone here..and he IS talented.. but the deal was impossible to achieve and he turned into an injury trap like some predicted.
What i want to say... is that every seaosn there will be a player that will have everyone creaming their pants and saying the exact same thing you are saying ("wow dybala is so good compared to X and X and X player from last summer)....just to flop some months later.

Im not saying he IS destined tyo flop... but we need to be very cautious. Just remember that a couple seasons ago..we were seeing Jovetic as del Piero{s perfect heir...but the guy turned to be an injury machine. Look a Rossi , look at InMobile.

The Cavani deal is pretty much impossible without selling pOGBA. We need to be clear on that. And very few would like to see Pogba in other colours so soon. But if somehow Beppe can pull it...he should.

Don't forget the Continassa money which can be used on Cavani
Continassa wasnt on a stalemate?
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,196
:rofl:

Please just close this thread and save yourselves 50 pages worth of trouble. He will be this seasons version of Dzeko/Aguero/RVP etc. We'll only buy him if we sell Pogba, and in all honesty, I'd much rather we keep Pogba than sign this guy.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,262
:rofl:

Please just close this thread and save yourselves 50 pages worth of trouble. He will be this seasons version of Dzeko/Aguero/RVP etc. We'll only buy him if we sell Pogba, and in all honesty, I'd much rather we keep Pogba than sign this guy.
There was no bigger heartbreak than that man. Fuck I believed. I had faith.

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But we got the vastly superior man. :tevez:

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:beppe:
 

Knowah

Pool's Closed Due to Aids
Jan 28, 2013
6,594
:D

Hydde, I honestly cannot believe you're comparing Dybala to players like Muriel, Iturbe, and Abel Hernandez. Totally different style players, none of whom make those around them better. Nowhere near the intelligence level with those guys (or productivity, for that matter, when you consider goals + assists). There is simply no comparison there.

Jovetic has a lot of class, but his career has obviously been derailed by injuries; he can't stay healthy.

Cavani is a pipe dream, bud. Other than the fact that he's a good player who is having issues with PSG, and a bunch of reporters would like to connect Pogba with a move to PSG, Cavani moving to Juventus just doesn't make any sense at all. Both he and PSG would effectively have to accept, what, less than half what the previous transfer fee and current salary are? The guy we just bought last summer, who is playing extremely well, also isn't an ideal partner for Edi up front.

None of it makes sense to me.
I don't think he's comparing the players exactly to Dybala but the hype around them was very similar. Now, Dybala definitely seems better (in hindsight) than those from past years. But it always seems so obvious when you look back. Seriously, go to the Iturbe thread and read right around the page where he was flying into Turin or something. You've got people saying we dodged a bullet in Sanchez and were getting the "Vastly superior" player. People saying he was the next Aguero for sure. A sure bet. Etc. But he really was the flavor of the month South American attacker. But we already knew that lol. Beppe so smart.

They always have more flair than the last guy that was fapped over. They're always more technical than that last guy so it can't possibly be a bust. We're gonna miss out. Oh, no, we're missing out on the next Aguero. The next Messi. Seriously, this time its totally different, guys.

Meanwhile there's some less-than-sexy Italian kid who has quietly put up similar numbers and we already have an invested interest in him and yet he's last week's flavor. He's just less technical. He's a hothead. He's never gonna be anything but a backup for us. His hype has passed and therefore let's move on. But half his goals are penalties. He's a hothead. Yeah? Well, he's also playing with a squad below his talent level and, again, quietly putting up numbers consistent with Dybala's over the entire year. And he did it the year before. And the year before that. Body of work. Am I saying Berardi is a sure thing? No. I'm saying his "sexiness" and our interest (Tuz's interest) in him died when we signed him. He was already ours so of course he's destined for a career on our bench or for some midtable Serie A club for the rest of his life. Right? He's no longer the sexy name on the market. I'd say Berardi is a Dortmund signing for us. A quiet, under-the-radar signing that could explode. Dybala is a flashy kid in his first decent year and we're talking like he's Aguero at A. Madrid.

In the end, it's about the money and the body of work. Dybala is overhyped for a body of work that is lacking. And his production has fallen off compared to earlier in the year.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,332
I don't think he's comparing the players exactly to Dybala but the hype around them was very similar. Now, Dybala definitely seems better (in hindsight) than those from past years. But it always seems so obvious when you look back. Seriously, go to the Iturbe thread and read right around the page where he was flying into Turin or something. You've got people saying we dodged a bullet in Sanchez and were getting the "Vastly superior" player. People saying he was the next Aguero for sure. A sure bet. Etc. But he really was the flavor of the month South American attacker. But we already knew that lol. Beppe so smart.
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In the end, it's about the money and the body of work. Dybala is overhyped for a body of work that is lacking. And his production has fallen off compared to earlier in the year.
+Rep.

That day with Iturbe's plane was nuts. That was the same day Conte quit. One of my favourite Tuz meltdowns.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,196
I don't think he's comparing the players exactly to Dybala but the hype around them was very similar. Now, Dybala definitely seems better (in hindsight) than those from past years. But it always seems so obvious when you look back. Seriously, go to the Iturbe thread and read right around the page where he was flying into Turin or something. You've got people saying we dodged a bullet in Sanchez and were getting the "Vastly superior" player. People saying he was the next Aguero for sure. A sure bet. Etc. But he really was the flavor of the month South American attacker. But we already knew that lol. Beppe so smart.

They always have more flair than the last guy that was fapped over. They're always more technical than that last guy so it can't possibly be a bust. We're gonna miss out. Oh, no, we're missing out on the next Aguero. The next Messi. Seriously, this time its totally different, guys.

Meanwhile there's some less-than-sexy Italian kid who has quietly put up similar numbers and we already have an invested interest in him and yet he's last week's flavor. He's just less technical. He's a hothead. He's never gonna be anything but a backup for us. His hype has passed and therefore let's move on. But half his goals are penalties. He's a hothead. Yeah? Well, he's also playing with a squad below his talent level and, again, quietly putting up numbers consistent with Dybala's over the entire year. And he did it the year before. And the year before that. Body of work. Am I saying Berardi is a sure thing? No. I'm saying his "sexiness" and our interest (Tuz's interest) in him died when we signed him. He was already ours so of course he's destined for a career on our bench or for some midtable Serie A club for the rest of his life. Right? He's no longer the sexy name on the market. I'd say Berardi is a Dortmund signing for us. A quiet, under-the-radar signing that could explode. Dybala is a flashy kid in his first decent year and we're talking like he's Aguero at A. Madrid.

In the end, it's about the money and the body of work. Dybala is overhyped for a body of work that is lacking. And his production has fallen off compared to earlier in the year.
:tup:

And next year, it'll be another flavour-of-the-month South American player to take his place. And the cycle goes on...
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,150
I don't think he's comparing the players exactly to Dybala but the hype around them was very similar. Now, Dybala definitely seems better (in hindsight) than those from past years. But it always seems so obvious when you look back. Seriously, go to the Iturbe thread and read right around the page where he was flying into Turin or something. You've got people saying we dodged a bullet in Sanchez and were getting the "Vastly superior" player. People saying he was the next Aguero for sure. A sure bet. Etc. But he really was the flavor of the month South American attacker. But we already knew that lol. Beppe so smart.

They always have more flair than the last guy that was fapped over. They're always more technical than that last guy so it can't possibly be a bust. We're gonna miss out. Oh, no, we're missing out on the next Aguero. The next Messi. Seriously, this time its totally different, guys.
That was from 1 or 2 delusional posters at best.Those same people who said 25m for Sanchez is 'overpaying'.

But anyway Dybala's already signed for us as far as i'm concerned.Just doing all the paperwork as we speak.:beppe:
 
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