Edin Džeko - Striker - Manchester City - Part 2 (16 Viewers)

[Amer]

IMO out of Van Persie, Adebayor and Dzeko only Dzeko has predispositions to fully succeed in Serie A. He has all the qualities Trezeguet had in his best years at Juve. Dzeko is even younger then these two and he's not injury prone.

Our priority should be to sign Cavani, but Dzeko is logical alternative.

 

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[Tommy]

Please sign this guy and spare me the sight of Pieceofshitzzini in a Juve shirt.

 

[Rollie]

Please sign this guy and spare me the sight of Pieceofshitzzini in a Juve shirt.

I too would like us to be spared the Pieceofshitzzini.

 

[Fr3sh]

If Dzeko signs for us, he will finish the season as capocannoniere.

IMO out of Van Persie, Adebayor and Dzeko only Dzeko has predispositions to fully succeed in Serie A. He has all the qualities Trezeguet had in his best years at Juve. Dzeko is even younger then these two and he's not injury prone.

Our priority should be to sign Cavani, but Dzeko is logical alternative.

Dzeko is much much better than Ade, but he's also much cheaper too. Ade is significantly better than Pazzini, while being the same price range. Getting him would satisfy our immediate need for a striker, and it would allow us to splash on Jojo.

And then next year, Higgy and Cavani! With Ade bench.

 

[BlakeTheBlue]

Who said he's worthless ?I was just saying,since City are inclined to sell him as he's deemed surplus for them we shouldnt go over the odds to pay big money for him.

Wrong, Wrong and Wrong... City don't want to sell Dzeko and he is desperate to stay. But Mancini wants RvP and something has to give. That something is hopefully Adebayor and Santa Cruz off the wage bill, This is the plan but they are both playing hard ball and neither want to take a pay cut to move elsewhere. If we can't move those two this summer and there is a bid for Edin the WE deem acceptable then we will consider it. That means a bid oif between £20M - £25M and under no circumstances one of your dodgey Italian "loan with the option to buy" deals (or as they should be called, loan with the option to dump him back on you if it doesn't work out deal). Milan tried it with Tevez and we just laughed. Juve will get the same if they try it with Dzeko. You want him, don't be such cheap Ars*es and pay for him.

 

[j0ker]

Wrong, Wrong and Wrong... City don't want to sell Dzeko and he is desperate to stay. But Mancini wants RvP and something has to give. That something is hopefully Adebayor and Santa Cruz off the wage bill, This is the plan but they are both playing hard ball and neither want to take a pay cut to move elsewhere. If we can't move those two this summer and there is a bid for Edin the WE deem acceptable then we will consider it. That means a bid oif between £20M - £25M and under no circumstances one of your dodgey Italian "loan with the option to buy" deals (or as they should be called, loan with the option to dump him back on you if it doesn't work out deal). Milan tried it with Tevez and we just laughed. Juve will get the same if they try it with Dzeko. You want him, don't be such cheap Ars*es and pay for him.

Why so serious?

You realize that we (as users on a internet forum) don't have that kind of powers.

 

[KB824]

Wrong, Wrong and Wrong... City don't want to sell Dzeko and he is desperate to stay. But Mancini wants RvP and something has to give. That something is hopefully Adebayor and Santa Cruz off the wage bill, This is the plan but they are both playing hard ball and neither want to take a pay cut to move elsewhere. If we can't move those two this summer and there is a bid for Edin the WE deem acceptable then we will consider it. That means a bid oif between £20M - £25M and under no circumstances one of your dodgey Italian "loan with the option to buy" deals (or as they should be called, loan with the option to dump him back on you if it doesn't work out deal). Milan tried it with Tevez and we just laughed. Juve will get the same if they try it with Dzeko. You want him, don't be such cheap Ars*es and pay for him.

What's up with the attitude

 

[YasoR17]

Wrong, Wrong and Wrong... City don't want to sell Dzeko and he is desperate to stay. But Mancini wants RvP and something has to give. That something is hopefully Adebayor and Santa Cruz off the wage bill, This is the plan but they are both playing hard ball and neither want to take a pay cut to move elsewhere. If we can't move those two this summer and there is a bid for Edin the WE deem acceptable then we will consider it. That means a bid oif between £20M - £25M and under no circumstances one of your dodgey Italian "loan with the option to buy" deals (or as they should be called, loan with the option to dump him back on you if it doesn't work out deal). Milan tried it with Tevez and we just laughed. Juve will get the same if they try it with Dzeko. You want him, don't be such cheap Ars*es and pay for him.

Please kindly fuck off sir.

 

[Amer]

Wrong, Wrong and Wrong... City don't want to sell Dzeko and he is desperate to stay. But Mancini wants RvP and something has to give. That something is hopefully Adebayor and Santa Cruz off the wage bill, This is the plan but they are both playing hard ball and neither want to take a pay cut to move elsewhere. If we can't move those two this summer and there is a bid for Edin the WE deem acceptable then we will consider it. That means a bid oif between £20M - £25M and under no circumstances one of your dodgey Italian "loan with the option to buy" deals (or as they should be called, loan with the option to dump him back on you if it doesn't work out deal). Milan tried it with Tevez and we just laughed. Juve will get the same if they try it with Dzeko. You want him, don't be such cheap Ars*es and pay for him.

That's an overstatement right there and you know it.

As for the payment, nobody will ever pay straight 25M for a player. Since the payments are made in instalments, our loan fee offered to City would basically be the first instalement, maybe 5M. Then in three years time we would pay the rest of the money. Obligation to buy solves the issue in the end.

 

[baggio]

I've got to admit though Vucinic/Giovinco would work better with Dzeko than RVP.

 

[BlakeTheBlue]

What's up with the attitude

What attitude? It's a fair assesment of how it is.

Please kindly $#@! off sir.

Thank you for your kind request, But no. I have a right to comment on one of MY CLUBS players.

That's an overstatement right there and you know it.

As for the payment, nobody will ever pay straight 25M for a player. Since the payments are made in instalments, our loan fee offered to City would basically be the first instalement, maybe 5M. Then in three years time we would pay the rest of the money. Obligation to buy solves the issue in the end.

No, it's not an overstatement. If you knew anything about Edin you would know how much he loves City. And we are in no rush to sell. Why do italian clubs and their fans have such a hard on for these sneaky loan deals? They seem dishonest to me. Do you think Liverpool would have agreed to a trial period pay later deal with Aquelani if they knew you would just send him back? Ofcourse not, Those deals are so dodgey. If you think the deal is a risk then don't buy the player... Otherwise bite the bullet and sign him outright. Installments are fine. City would agree with that. Say £20M over 4 years at £5M a year. But i know for a fact we won't do the loan with an option to buy deal. It's a well discussed thing in the City community since Milan tried it with Tevez and those who are inside at the club have assured us City won't be accepting any of those kind of deals unless it's for fringe players (Ade/Roque) etc.

I've not got an attitude. I'm just saying it from our point of view. If you guys don't like it then ask yourselves why that might be. Imagine if we wanted to loan Chiellini with an "option" to buy after a season.

 

[baggio]

No, it's actually a gentleman's agreement through which we buy ourselves one extra window. Its sort of a loan with obligation, but people misunderstnd the concept. It's just one way of managing your mercato outlay. Nothing sneaky about it, when it comes to the bigger players, with higher valuations. The aquiline deal you keep going back to, is an exception to the rule. He was an injury prone player and Juve chose not to sign him within the window of understanding at which time he became a Pool player again. His form was shit, and he was not of the value they were asking for him. Juve are historically a top club and care about their image in the global Market, something we are more prticular of, since Calciopoli. There is no way we would get into such deals with the sole intention of screwing over another club, its just that the balance of power has shifted financially speaking, as has the way of operations, when it comes to accessing top players, we're just finding our way around it, given that the Serie a isn't what it used to be in the past.

 

[Rollie]

Yeah guys, Liverpool would never agree to a "trial period pay later deal with Aquilani"... except they've already agreed to it fucking twice - with us, and Milan. That's what happens when you're paying something like 3.5M+, net, for Aquipussy - you try and get that salary off the books, ASAP.

Oh, and Blake, that 4 year payment plan you laid out works exactly the same as a Loan with a clause for an obligatory purchase (although all the figures can be adjusted). It's not a shady deal, it just adds an additional installment window; it's easy to make the language work. We've done it many times, and the only negative one you can point out is Aquilani - although I'll give you Estigarribia for free, he would have liked to stay. Hell, Juve made good on MARCO FUCKING MOTTA - clearly when Beppe gives his word, he sticks to it.

Quagliarella, Matri, Pepe, Motta, Caceres, Asamoah, Isla, etc. These are all examples of loan/option, or co-own/option deals that are designed to spread payments out.

 

[Amer]

What attitude? It's a fair assesment of how it is.



Thank you for your kind request, But no. I have a right to comment on one of MY CLUBS players.



No, it's not an overstatement. If you knew anything about Edin you would know how much he loves City. And we are in no rush to sell. Why do italian clubs and their fans have such a hard on for these sneaky loan deals? They seem dishonest to me. Do you think Liverpool would have agreed to a trial period pay later deal with Aquelani if they knew you would just send him back? Ofcourse not, Those deals are so dodgey. If you think the deal is a risk then don't buy the player... Otherwise bite the bullet and sign him outright. Installments are fine. City would agree with that. Say £20M over 4 years at £5M a year. But i know for a fact we won't do the loan with an option to buy deal. It's a well discussed thing in the City community since Milan tried it with Tevez and those who are inside at the club have assured us City won't be accepting any of those kind of deals unless it's for fringe players (Ade/Roque) etc.

I've not got an attitude. I'm just saying it from our point of view. If you guys don't like it then ask yourselves why that might be. Imagine if we wanted to loan Chiellini with an "option" to buy after a season.

You can't compare that, Chiellini is for us what some regular defender is for City, he never was and never will be on the market. Dzeko, on the other hand is nothing but a bench player for City since Tevez rejoined the squad, so that means he is basically on the market. And don't talk to me about his love for the City, he signed a contract there only because of the money, like every other player. There is still long road ahead before City players start feeling true affection for the club. You need heritage for that, and that something which is truly hard to decribe with words, think of it as aura around the club, the players, the stuff, the stadium (I'm not talking about fans). Sometning that you don't see, but feel. That's something City don't really have.

 

[Rollie]

For some reason I can't edit my previous post, but here's an example to help clarify the flexibility of loan/options for Blake.

We loaned Caceres from Sevilla for 1.5M or something like that, with a clause inserted in the deal that if Juventus finished in the top 6 of Serie A, we were obligated to pay an additional 8M for the player full card (which is then spread out over 3 years). We now own Caceres.

Proposed loan/option to City for Dzeko: 5M loan payment, with clause inserted that Juventus is obligated to purchase the player for an additional 15M if the club finishes in the top 10 of Serie A.

By definition, City would have loaned Dzeko to Juventus.

 

[Alen]

Wrong, Wrong and Wrong... City don't want to sell Dzeko and he is desperate to stay. But Mancini wants RvP and something has to give. That something is hopefully Adebayor and Santa Cruz off the wage bill, This is the plan but they are both playing hard ball and neither want to take a pay cut to move elsewhere. If we can't move those two this summer and there is a bid for Edin the WE deem acceptable then we will consider it. That means a bid oif between £20M - £25M and under no circumstances one of your dodgey Italian "loan with the option to buy" deals (or as they should be called, loan with the option to dump him back on you if it doesn't work out deal). Milan tried it with Tevez and we just laughed. Juve will get the same if they try it with Dzeko. You want him, don't be such cheap Ars*es and pay for him.

You're talking as if you are the Sheik

You have no idea what will City do, lets face it. You're only talking as a fan and saying what you want them/don't want them to do.

 

[BlakeTheBlue]

You're talking as if you are the Sheik

You have no idea what will City do, lets face it. You're only talking as a fan and saying what you want them/don't want them to do.

How do you know i'm not the Sheikh?

 

[LowLife]

Fuck Dzeko, let him be 5th striker at CITY!

 

[#10]

How do you know i'm not the Sheikh?

You would probably be to busy spending money, promoting the Arab states whilst simultaneously pacifying the peasant/working class population of his (sorry your) empire to be replying to a Juve forum comment

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Fuck Dzeko, let him be 5th striker at CITY!

considering how much he gets paid, im pretty sure hes ok with that