Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (110 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

If people require the idea of heaven and hell, as a sort of bribe to be good people... Those are some terrible fucking people.

 

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[X Æ A-12]

Why is Scientology a proved scam but Christianity (or Islam) isn't?

They are total scams but you're asking muslims and christians what kind of answer do you expect?

 

[abstract]

I don't know. The idea of hell and eternity is enough for me to try and be a better person and in doing so, the 10 commandments is where I start.

Lets hope you will keep your fate till you die.This world has enough sociopaths running around freely.

 

[Hust]

Lets hope you will keep your fate till you die.This world has enough sociopaths running around freely.

wat?

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If people require the idea of heaven and hell, as a sort of bribe to be good people... Those are some terrible fucking people.

Not, not really when you take into context something as simple as a lie is considered sinful. You have never lied?

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Ok. I personally believe in the golden rule and being part of a society where I feel comfortable.

Nothing wrong with the Golden rule. Same things apply, do they not?

 

[Martin]

I don't know. The idea of hell and eternity is enough for me to try and be a better person and in doing so, the 10 commandments is where I start.

do you honor your mother and your father?

 

[Hust]

do you honor your mother and your father?

As best as I can, yes.

 

[Martin]

As best as I can, yes.

in what way?

 

[Hust]

in what way?

Would take me far too long to list everything but here are some of the ones that stand out:

-care for them as they age whether financially or physically
-forgive them for mistakes they have made and not hold it against them
-respecting them and thanking them for the tough job they had in raising me

There are many others. The Bible gives its reasons as to why this is important which I partially agree with depending on the context you comprehend when you read the reasons why.

 

[Martin]

Would take me far too long to list everything but here are some of the ones that stand out:

-care for them as they age whether financially or physically
-forgive them for mistakes they have made and not hold it against them
-respecting them and thanking them for the tough job they had in raising me

There are many others. The Bible gives its reasons as to why this is important which I partially agree with depending on the context you comprehend when you read the reasons why.

I see.

And do you covet your neighbor's wife?

 

[Post Ironic]

wat?

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Not, not really when you take into context something as simple as a lie is considered sinful. You have never lied?

I've told lies. Well, more so omitting things than telling bold-faced lies. When it happens, I generally feel guilty about it, regardless.

Religious people tell lies too. They just ask their god for forgiveness, and "poof" the weight of their actions is magically lifted off their shoulders.

 

[Hust]

I see.

And do you covet your neighbor's wife?

Why would I?

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I've told lies. Well, more so omitting things than telling bold-faced lies. When it happens, I generally feel guilty about it, regardless.

Religious people tell lies too. They just ask their god for forgiveness, and "poof" the weight of their actions is magically lifted off their shoulders.

It isn't magically lifted off of your shoulders, you still have to answer for it. It's admitting the mistake and trying not to do it again that's the important part.

 

[Martin]

Why would I?

well, it's in the bible so evidently they thought you would

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I think drooling over Nargi counts in that, Hust

 

[Hust]

well, it's in the bible so evidently they thought you would

It says not to.

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I think drooling over Nargi counts in that, Hust

I've never liked Nargi. Go through my posts there, I find her disgusting.

It's Marchisio's wife I like.

And liking is not wanting.

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And she isn't my neighbor.

 

[Martin]

It says not to.

didn't you just say that you need those rules for guidance? so if they're obvious what good are they?

 

[Hust]

didn't you just say that you need those rules for guidance? so if they're obvious what good are they?

I did. I was telling you that I don't covet my neighbors wife. I never said anything about anything being obvious, did I?

 

[IliveForJuve]

I've told lies. Well, more so omitting things than telling bold-faced lies. When it happens, I generally feel guilty about it, regardless.

Religious people tell lies too. They just ask their god for forgiveness, and "poof" the weight of their actions is magically lifted off their shoulders.

It reminded me of the first time I confessed my sins to a priest (my first communion). Gawd, it felt exactly like you said, "poof" and I got all that weight off my shoulders The power of the human brain.

 

[Martin]

I did. I was telling you that I don't covet my neighbors wife. I never said anything about anything being obvious, did I?

you said "why would i?"

why would anyone do anything that's contrary to the commandments?

 

[Hust]

you said "why would i?"

why would anyone do anything that's contrary to the commandments?

People quite often do contrary to the commandments. Is it obvious to them or not is a question you need to ask them.

If someone never read or heard of the commandments, it can't be obvious now can it?

 

[Enron]

I don't know. The idea of hell and eternity is enough for me to try and be a better person and in doing so, the 10 commandments is where I start.

Ah so you need incentive to be a good person? Not very Christian of you.