Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (91 Viewers)

[Hængebøffer]

You could say. But most religions serve an actual purpose for people.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

You could say. But most religions serve an actual purpose for people.

Like providing an explanation for the unknown, consolation for the loss of loved ones, a promise of justice for perpetrators and nullifying the fear of death?

 

[Hængebøffer]

Why do you think the most poor countries are also the most religious ones?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Why do you think the most poor countries are also the most religious ones?

Cos they are most vulnerable to the scam of religion.

 

[Ocelot]

Like providing an explanation for the unknown, consolation for the loss of loved ones, a promise of justice for perpetrators and nullifying the fear of death?

Among giving hope, serving as a deterrent from destructive/antisocial behaviour, inspiring a sense of community, source of motivation,....

 

[Hængebøffer]

Cos they are most vulnerable to the scam of religion.

Speaking about an open mind
Look at Ocelot's post.

 

[Hust]

Cos they are most vulnerable to the scam of religion.

Hope = Obama = Nigera

Case closed.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Among giving hope, serving as a deterrent from destructive/antisocial behaviour, inspiring a sense of community, source of motivation,....

Submitting your life to God's will instead of taking control of your own life

 

[Hængebøffer]

Submitting your life to God's will instead of taking control of your own life

Looking at other people through their middle class glasses

 

[Hust]

Looking at other people through their middle class glasses

I like where this is going.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Speaking about an open mind
Look at Ocelot's post.

I'm not denying that religion has good things to offer. But the way I see it, it's all based on lies and false hopes. I believe that as intelligent beings, we need to find better reasons and better ways to provide hope, constructive behavior and a sense of community to the people.

Hope = Obama = Nigera

Case closed.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Submitting your life to God's will instead of taking control of your own life

Sorry, but I don't see that as a good thing at all!

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Sorry, but I don't see that as a good thing at all!

 

[Hængebøffer]

I'm not denying that religion has good things to offer. But the way I see it, it's all based on lies and false hopes. I believe that as intelligent beings, we need to find better reasons and better ways to provide hope, constructive behavior and a sense of community to the people.

Believe it or not, but I know what you mean. But we also need to understand that people have different conditions. For some people the bottle is the way of coping with life. Religion for others.

 

[Hust]

Sorry, but I don't see that as a good thing at all!

It can be. From the point of view of religion, if you follow God's will (such as 10 commandments) leaves you a pretty solid moral compass for yourself often directed positively at others when you try to apply it. That would also make you appear well-rounded to those around you so it isn't necessarily a bad thing. To me, it makes more sense to believe in something greater than any of us that might offer eternity in a better place rather than living life believing nothing happens afterwards. You can't use the "prepare to be disappointed" argument for that either because if God isn't true then you won't be around to know you made a mistake. But if he is real, and you meet him, then hopefully you lived a life good enough for His eyes to welcome you.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

It wasn't supposed to be a positive. ..

 

[Hust]

It wasn't supposed to be a positive. ..

And? Is it impossible for others to make light of something dark?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

No, Hustini.

 

[Hust]

 

[Cuti]

I don't really believe in a god exactly, however I'm not ruling out that there is a higher power. I just know for this period in my life, I have no reason to believe that there is a god. When I was younger I was brought up as a Christian, had my holy communion, but never got confirmed.

While I do not go to mass (apart from weddings and funerals) I still live a good life. I'm always helping people out and always try to help those less fortunate. I don't do so cause i'm a 'good christian'...I do so cause I'm not a dick and was brought up well by my parents.

So I guess not believing in anything but not ruling out any possibilities makes me agnostic right?