Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (19 Viewers)

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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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And if a women is arested for 2 years for that it means that everything else is bad and should be changed according to our western morals and way if life? That is not neceseraly the best thing for the people living there.
Thats a different thing. We recently had this discussion during the RZL (religion, meaningfullness and philosophy).

Its a fact that as a culture, islam is inferior and lags about 3 centuries behind. Essential human rights alone, are a good benchmark for this.
I however,in contrast to the majority of my class, am against any kind of meddeling in their affairs. Our supreme western culture, once was at the level where Islam is now. But nobody came here telling how things should be done. And we shouldnt go there, and force them to respect their women as human beeings. No, we should allow the problem to solve itself. By small or bigger revolutionary steps, they will reach the point where we are today, in a few decades from now.

Offcourse, if you talk about this on a forum or other place where things can be discussed, then i will gladly point out the superiority of our society.

You might find a clue if you check how many non-muslim women from england, russia, ukraine, japan and every other corner of the world are getting married with a muslim.
Sure thing. I used to live in the ghetto of antwerp, (hoboken+kiel) where like 70+% is muslim. Not marrying another muslim, is reason enough to be cast out of the family.

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its zach guys, he only likes diseased ginger women
I like a variety of female types, and i have a soft spot for 2 specific ones. one of them beeing gingers.

Wich are offcourse, not "diseased", and i would appreciate it if you dont make asshole comments about it.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Offcourse, if you talk about this on a forum or other place where things can be discussed, then i will gladly point out the superiority of our society.
What a surprise.

Anyway man, you're the last person I would want to have a discussion with. So I'll just nod and move one.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Which reality? Yours?
University students in belgium all have that RZL course i mentionned. In that course we learn how to protect the evolution theory and the people who actively do so (like Johan Braeckman). For example sinking arguments of creationists.

In the same course we learn to appreciate the values we have, and the norms of our society, and why its superior to islam.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
What would a world do without you belgium guys. I bet we would be overrun with the inferior norms of islam and forget our superior western world view.

I'm a bit curious what were my arguments for creationism.

Forza Richard Dawkins and long live technocracy!
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
What would a world do without you belgium guys. I bet we would be overrun with the inferior norms of islam and forget our superior western world view.

I'm a bit curious what were my arguments for creationism.

Forza Richard Dawkins and long live technocracy!
Its not just here, its in most civilised european nations. But in Belgium i know it from experience
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I really hope this isn't true. Otherwise my concept of Begium as an advanced and relatively tolerant country would be very, very wrong.
We get taught how we have a better culture. We dont bomb an inferior culture like the americans do.

We tolerate an inferior culture instead, as long as they accept our laws and values when they want to live here.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,526
You might find a clue if you check how many non-muslim women from england, russia, ukraine, japan and every other corner of the world are getting married with a muslim.
Yeah but they're still living in England, Russia, etc.

Like I said, the issue isn't Islam, it's the fact that there's no separation between church and state.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
I really hope this isn't true. Otherwise my concept of Begium as an advanced and relatively tolerant country would be very, very wrong.
We get taught how we have a better culture. We dont bomb an inferior culture like the americans do.

We tolerate an inferior culture instead, as long as they accept our laws and values when they want to live here.
@Bjerknes
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,281
I find it interesting that one of the things you're accusing Islam/Muslims of is of "having a right of truth". What you're saying sounds a lot like it with words like 'this is why we have an superior culture'.

I don't really wanna get into a discussion with you though because you seem to get most if not all of your information from the media and can't differentiate between what the teachings of Islam are vs what Muslims you might have encountered say or do.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I find it interesting that one of the things you're accusing Islam/Muslims of is of "having a right of truth". What you're saying sounds a lot like it with words like 'this is why we have an superior culture'.

I don't really wanna get into a discussion with you though because you seem to get most if not all of your information from the media and can't differentiate between what the teachings of Islam are vs what Muslims you might have encountered say or do.
I like how every single argument against islam gets the response "thats what you get from the media"
 

kao_ray

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Feb 28, 2014
6,568
Man, just before WW2 racism was wide spread across the western countries. Belgium had colonies and was exploiting people from other continents. Yep, that's what I'm calling a superior culture. A master race that respects the infidels. :disagree:
 

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